sing when you're losing ...

[waalsendmick]

.... this phucking board is busier when we struggle.

because the trolls, wums and nobs only hang out here for a bite.

enjoy your fun, you bunch of pricks.


but 35 yrs of watching the TOON lose more games than they win has prepared me for times like this.

s still hate Ashley, I still love the TOON and I still trust Rafa (despite some of his baffling selections).

keep the faith!

[kingstonbob]

Spot on

[pboromag]

only 35 years
the truth is some were saying footy under rafa was ****e when we were winning in the fizzy
some even moaned when we had other managers
truth is on a footy forum you get those that tell it how it is and those that want to read how it should be

may i suggets you still trust rafa as you are afraid to say what you really want in case you get labelled a wum etc etc
coward

worst manager we have had in the prem or damb near it
even worse than carver

[ghostrider]

.... this phucking board is busier when we struggle.

because the trolls, wums and nobs only hang out here for a bite.

enjoy your fun, you bunch of pricks.


but 35 yrs of watching the TOON lose more games than they win has prepared me for times like this.

s still hate Ashley, I still love the TOON and I still trust Rafa (despite some of his baffling selections).

keep the faith!

Stop whining; people are entitled to their opinion.

[TheOtherTerryMac]

Stop whining; people are entitled to their opinion.

Went to watch the match against Everton solely because I have a relative over from Canada. I vowed I would never attend another match while Ashley is in charge.

I thought we played really well in the first half but again let down by Darlow. For me I would play Woodman in goal

A lot of people slagged Rafa off because he wanted a new experienced goalkeeper. Rafa is a good manager but you can only pi$$ with the d ick you’ve got. Shelvey does not track back and continually points at other midfielders to pick up players while he is marking fresh air. Mitro and Shelvey are liabilities in the team and we should get shot of both of them in January that’s if anyone would take them.

Let’s see how the January window pans out before screaming for Rafas Head the person to blame fir our predicament is Ashley.

[ghostrider]

Went to watch the match against Everton solely because I have a relative over from Canada. I vowed I would never attend another match while Ashley is in charge.

I thought we played really well in the first half but again let down by Darlow. For me I would play Woodman in goal

A lot of people slagged Rafa off because he wanted a new experienced goalkeeper. Rafa is a good manager but you can only pi$$ with the d ick you’ve got. Shelvey does not track back and continually points at other midfielders to pick up players while he is marking fresh air. Mitro and Shelvey are liabilities in the team and we should get shot of both of them in January that’s if anyone would take them.

Let’s see how the January window pans out before screaming for Rafas Head the person to blame fir our predicament is Ashley.

Well just remember that he basically built his own d-i-c-k but ok fair enough, I'll hold back on wanting him out and let nature take its course.

Let's see what he can do with another budget to add to the 125 million he's already been allowed to spend in less than two seasons.

I wonder how much he would need for the luxury of safety this season?
What do you think is fair for him to at least do that?

Here's another question.
If he gets whatever people think is enough to avoid relegation and he still takes us to the depths of despair, is it Ashley's fault for being too late in giving him funds or will it finally be Rafa's fault?

It's just that, I wonder what it will take for people to see this mercenary for what he is.

[HughieG]

Well just remember that he basically built his own d-i-c-k but ok fair enough, I'll hold back on wanting him out and let nature take its course.

Let's see what he can do with another budget to add to the 125 million he's already been allowed to spend in less than two seasons.

I wonder how much he would need for the luxury of safety this season?
What do you think is fair for him to at least do that?

Here's another question.
If he gets whatever people think is enough to avoid relegation and he still takes us to the depths of despair, is it Ashley's fault for being too late in giving him funds or will it finally be Rafa's fault?

It's just that, I wonder what it will take for people to see this mercenary for what he is.

No no no, this is the real question; WHO do you think should come in and replace Rafa - who is it that can work magic with this dross? Yes, Rafa has purchased some of these players - he couldn't get anybody else so it was better than nothing.

[ghostrider]

No no no, this is the real question; WHO do you think should come in and replace Rafa - who is it that can work magic with this dross? Yes, Rafa has purchased some of these players - he couldn't get anybody else so it was better than nothing.

There is no dross.
There is a team that is lacking in confidence and a squad that's being messed around, as well as any particular team sent out are sent out not knowing what the hell to do. This under a so called world class manager that's had nearly two seasons to organise something.


So the issue is, how much does Rafa need to spend in January for fans to accept that he cannot use spending as an excuse?

[pboromag]

No no no, this is the real question; WHO do you think should come in and replace Rafa - who is it that can work magic with this dross? Yes, Rafa has purchased some of these players - he couldn't get anybody else so it was better than nothing.

fat sam
pardew

anyone really

some good prem players not world class but solid players

just being cut a drift by a manager who hasnt a clue

there are loads of managers better than rafa
the players need a lift
rafa cant give that

why anyone thinks there are not managers good enough or better than rafa telle me they know pheck all about footy

get carver back

his record in the prem is better than 5 million a year rafa

[BenArfa10]

Well just remember that he basically built his own d-i-c-k but ok fair enough, I'll hold back on wanting him out and let nature take its course.

Let's see what he can do with another budget to add to the 125 million he's already been allowed to spend in less than two seasons.

I wonder how much he would need for the luxury of safety this season?
What do you think is fair for him to at least do that?

Here's another question.
If he gets whatever people think is enough to avoid relegation and he still takes us to the depths of despair, is it Ashley's fault for being too late in giving him funds or will it finally be Rafa's fault?

It's just that, I wonder what it will take for people to see this mercenary for what he is.

£125m???? And again, the majority of players we bought were for the Championship with the hope they could step up at this level. Too many of them are showing that they are simply Championship players.

I don't know what you expect. We are exactly where you would expect a squad full of Championship players to be the season after promotion.