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    How much difference can a manager make?

    Seriously, does anyone think any manager could turn this bunch into a coherent team? I'm starting to think it's impossible. Yes, Ardley has said all the right things - we need to work on stopping crosses, winning both boxes, etc. But come Saturday afternoon, we concede four, three from crosses and one a dropping ball in the penalty area. Ardley also said he'd put a team out that represents the fans - that bunch out there don't represent me in any way. I'm embarrassed to be associated with them.

    This team seems beyond help to me. If it's true that we can't bring in anyone until others leave, we're totally screwed. I think Ardley's a decent manager, but he's not a miracle worker.

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    Give him 11 new players with desire and we might stand a chance.

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    If we give him a chance and time and with the January transfer window approaching then yes he can.
    If we can win our home games just to get away from the bottom two would be massive and how important is the boxing day game now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    If we give him a chance and time and with the January transfer window approaching then yes he can.
    If we can win our home games just to get away from the bottom two would be massive and how important is the boxing day game now?
    Nolan had chance and time AND the January transfer window but in his inexperience he blew it. I'm not knocking Ardley here, after all he does have about six years more experience of managing a football club, but if HE blows it then we might just as well have stuck with Nolan, we'll find out soon enough, hindsight is a wonderful way of predicting the present.

    I've just seen Ardley's post Macclesfield interview and he looks just as bewildered as Nolan and Kewell did, what to do? What to do? Perhaps (hindsight again) the experience of Edwards, Smith and Ameobi might have helped but who can Neal turn to, Cox? An unknown to we Notts fans but who knows what (if any) plan B they might have if THIS January goes tits up. Never has a transfer window been as important in the history of Notts County as this next one is. Sh!t or bust, as we philosophers say.

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    Today's result really does show all us fans that this could be the season where we loose our league status... an absolute shambles of a unit who have no fight or desire... last week Stead almost on his own dragged us over the line against Trannie but no mans an island and there is only so much he can do. I remember last year and Chesterfield who were apparently too good to go down... now look at where they are... and if you guys remember they played us off the park on the live tv match also... I am just stunned that these players will go collect their wages and go off and have a nice Christmas after that shocking performance today... where do we really go from here... I have a good idea where and it scares me to death... Mac have conceded 1 goal in their last 5 games where we have conceded 13 in our last 6... We need a miracle to get out of this but can anybody see it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    Seriously, does anyone think any manager could turn this bunch into a coherent team? I'm starting to think it's impossible. Yes, Ardley has said all the right things - we need to work on stopping crosses, winning both boxes, etc. But come Saturday afternoon, we concede four, three from crosses and one a dropping ball in the penalty area. Ardley also said he'd put a team out that represents the fans - that bunch out there don't represent me in any way. I'm embarrassed to be associated with them.

    This team seems beyond help to me. If it's true that we can't bring in anyone until others leave, we're totally screwed. I think Ardley's a decent manager, but he's not a miracle worker.
    Got more chance of finding a German in a queue

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    Interesting to hear Ardley say exactly what Nolan and Kewell have said in their post match interviews, but I guess that the same players will still be selected in the next game. I hope not, but I do believe the next team selection will be telling on how Ardley's management will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed View Post
    Interesting to hear Ardley say exactly what Nolan and Kewell have said in their post match interviews, but I guess that the same players will still be selected in the next game. I hope not, but I do believe the next team selection will be telling on how Ardley's management will be.
    If I had to pick one of this season's 3 managers, (OMG) to get us out of this, it would be Ardley. let's hope there is some serious movement in the Janny-Tranny window owse I fear we are sunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed View Post
    Interesting to hear Ardley say exactly what Nolan and Kewell have said in their post match interviews, but I guess that the same players will still be selected in the next game. I hope not, but I do believe the next team selection will be telling on how Ardley's management will be.
    Well, to me, the team selection today said it all after the last game against Grimsby. To select 10 of the same players who started the last game was just asking for another defeat which we got and was well deserved. As soon as these players get shown the door, then the sooner things will pick up, but who will have these worthless bunch of W*****S?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed View Post
    Well, to me, the team selection today said it all after the last game against Grimsby. To select 10 of the same players who started the last game was just asking for another defeat which we got and was well deserved. As soon as these players get shown the door, then the sooner things will pick up, but who will have these worthless bunch of W*****S?
    So, even with the benefit of hindsight, tell us what your starting eleven would have been?

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