Is there any point of a Brexit deal

[rambaggie]

If a deal is reached is there any point. All the opposition parties have no intention of voting for any deal no matter how good or bad it is. People are sick to the back teeth and just want it done and move on except for these morons.

[mickd1961]

With the ERG now seemingly on board it will only be the DUP that can ruin this.

If they bring this crashing down they will be carrying the can for this for decades to come.

I don’t know enough about Irish politics but given the fact that Northern Island voted by a large margin to remain in Europe I would presume they’d face being wiped out in future elections.

They took a £1 billion bribe for “confidence and supply” so going on past form it’ll be a bung on this occasion that will get them to sign up and then skulk off sulking.

[Dubbag]

With the ERG now seemingly on board it will only be the DUP that can ruin this.

If they bring this crashing down they will be carrying the can for this for decades to come.

I don’t know enough about Irish politics but given the fact that Northern Island voted by a large margin to remain in Europe I would presume they’d face being wiped out in future elections.

They took a £1 billion bribe for “confidence and supply” so going on past form it’ll be a bung on this occasion that will get them to sign up and then skulk off sulking.

The business community and farming community are very loud in their support for a deal......and that is a big area of support for DUP.....but the voting dynamics in the general election could be very different, depending on how they react to this proposed new deal....They are at their peak of power...but it may not last.
Politics on the ground is changing rapidly and many on both sides of the communities are not at all impressed that the Stormont Assembly has not been sitting for over two years now....

[kettering_baggie]

It will need to be a damn good deal to better what we already have, otherwise a no-deal is the best option, as long as it keeps that tw@t Corbyn ot of No.10.

[WBA123]

It will need to be a damn good deal to better what we already have, otherwise a no-deal is the best option, as long as it keeps that tw@t Corbyn ot of No.10.

And this is why a General Election solves nothing and we need another Brexit vote.

There are millions of Labour leavers and Tory remainers. There are many people out there who are trying to work out what is the least worse option between No Deal or a Corbyn Govt. Many voters who live in pro remain or pro leave areas and think the opposite are not having their voice heard.

The polls right now suggest another hung Parliament if we have a GE. That doesn't solve anything.

Have a referendum on the specific question of Brexit, and then have a General Election straight after on issues a GE is supposed to be about - like the NHS and Economy..

[mickd1961]

The business community and farming community are very loud in their support for a deal......and that is a big area of support for DUP.....but the voting dynamics in the general election could be very different, depending on how they react to this proposed new deal....They are at their peak of power...but it may not last.
Politics on the ground is changing rapidly and many on both sides of the communities are not at all impressed that the Stormont Assembly has not been sitting for over two years now....

It makes me wonder if the DUP are a dinosaur and at risk of being swamped by a newer more modern Unionist party Dubs?

[Dubbag]

It makes me wonder if the DUP are a dinosaur and at risk of being swamped by a newer more modern Unionist party Dubs?

In 1971 Ian Pasiely formed the DUP......and they were seen very much as an extremist unionist party.
After the ceasefire...they held out against any deal with Sinn Fein unlike the UUP which was the main unionist party for the entire life of N Ireland. The DUP opposed the Agreement in the Good Friday Agreement referendum, in which the Agreement was approved with 71.1% of the electorate in favour. Many unionist agreed with their policy of no power sharing with the Sinn Fein...but eventually big Ian realized the time was right.......

The truth is Mick...nobody really knows...BREXIT has polarized families and communities as well as political parties in N.Ireland.
The DUP was born out of the troubles....and may very well not be looking at anything other then been British......but business and youth may see it differently....Been European suits a lot of people in the North.....it cuts through sectarianism.. But change is coming......

[soulman101]

In 1971 Ian Pasiely formed the DUP......and they were seen very much as an extremist unionist party.
After the ceasefire...they held out against any deal with Sinn Fein unlike the UUP which was the main unionist party for the entire life of N Ireland. The DUP opposed the Agreement in the Good Friday Agreement referendum, in which the Agreement was approved with 71.1% of the electorate in favour. Many unionist agreed with their policy of no power sharing with the Sinn Fein...but eventually big Ian realized the time was right.......

The truth is Mick...nobody really knows...BREXIT has polarized families and communities as well as political parties in N.Ireland.
The DUP was born out of the troubles....and may very well not be looking at anything other then been British......but business and youth may see it differently....Been European suits a lot of people in the North.....it cuts through sectarianism.. But change is coming......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyhL0ioST_U

[Dubbag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyhL0ioST_U

Ah Loyd....I love this song and singer...thanks for this.....

[soulman101]

Ah Loyd....I love this song and singer...thanks for this.....

Glad you liked it, lots of great version from Sam Cooke original . When you said change is going to, i was jamming along with Otis.