Some leagues are more equal than others.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Just heard Simon Jordan say on Talksport that in 3 years 8:5 billion is paid to the league clubs collectively from TV companies. £8:1 billion of this goes to the premier league.
I’m no socialist but if there isn’t the opportunity to fix the gulf between the premier league and the EFL now there never will be.

[great_fire]

That's the free market, more people want to watch the Premier League and will pay to do so.

You sound a bit like those people who say that the Women's Premier League players should be paid the same as the men.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Do I? That has never been my stance on that. My point is the gulf on the product is too far.

How can we try to improve our product with a local lighting business owner when 20 teams get 8:1 billion and 72 get 0.4.

This is exactly why the tail wags the dog in the premier league and the clubs hold all the power over the FA and the premier league.

More and more teams will go bust.

[ragingpup]

That's the free market, more people want to watch the Premier League and will pay to do so.

You sound a bit like those people who say that the Women's Premier League players should be paid the same as the men.

There's a big difference between a free market that is deregulated and allows the market to operate freely despite how negatively this can impact on consumers, the product itself and society at large (if talking beyond a sport). Regulation is there to allow a free market to operate within protections for these things so that the greater integrity of the game are protected. Are you of the belief that there should be no regulation in sport, or anything else, and that the law of the free market jungle should be the only consideration?

[KerrAvon]

There's a big difference between a free market that is deregulated and allows the market to operate freely despite how negatively this can impact on consumers, the product itself and society at large (if talking beyond a sport). Regulation is there to allow a free market to operate within protections for these things so that the greater integrity of the game are protected. Are you of the belief that there should be no regulation in sport, or anything else, and that the law of the free market jungle should be the only consideration?

That argument doesn't really work, raging. The issue is with the market value of the product not the regulation of the market.

People all around the world are willing to pay to watch Liverpool v Man United. The collapse of the ITV Digital project a few years ago suggests that precious few people in the UK are willing to pay for Walsall v Gillingham.

To suggest that TV revenues be regulated to make distribution more even is akin to suggesting that BMW should subsidise Daewoo.

[Scum-Triumphant]

I don’t really enjoy premier league football that much. The characters have all vanished, the main clubs are owned by people who hardly step foot in the country. The same 6 teams usually finish in the top 6 and VAR isn’t for me.
I prefer the entertainment of the football league but I understand that I’m a minority in that view.

The poles have never been further apart from the top league to the bottom.
Failure is rewarded with parachute payments and clubs are crippling themselves for a bite of the cherry.

[ragingpup]

That argument doesn't really work, raging. The issue is with the market value of the product not the regulation of the market.

People all around the world are willing to pay to watch Liverpool v Man United. The collapse of the ITV Digital project a few years ago suggests that precious few people in the UK are willing to pay for Walsall v Gillingham.

To suggest that TV revenues be regulated to make distribution more even is akin to suggesting that BMW should subsidise Daewoo.

That ignores the fact that BMW is a competitor with Daewoo. The EPL and EFL are inter related, with clubs moving between them, and also players being developed by the EFL culbs that the EPL can reap the benefit from.

If left to exist as a completely de-regulated entity, the EPL may well vote against relegation, form into a super league and export games to be played in other countries. All of which make extra free market revenue but does it benefit the game and the supporters? Not sure what regulation exists at the moment (is it entirely self regulated??) but with these temptations for the super elite clubs, and those less wealthy but willing to vote for non relegation to preserve their own feast table place, I think regulation (not sure if that's the best word in this context!) on our national game should be a continued consideration.

[gm_gm]

That ignores the fact that BMW is a competitor with Daewoo. The EPL and EFL are inter related, with clubs moving between them, and also players being developed by the EFL culbs that the EPL can reap the benefit from.

If left to exist as a completely de-regulated entity, the EPL may well vote against relegation, form into a super league and export games to be played in other countries. All of which make extra free market revenue but does it benefit the game and the supporters? Not sure what regulation exists at the moment (is it entirely self regulated??) but with these temptations for the super elite clubs, and those less wealthy but willing to vote for non relegation to preserve their own feast table place, I think regulation (not sure if that's the best word in this context!) on our national game should be a continued consideration.

Side issue, but do Daewoo still make cars?

[caytonmiller]

I'm sure they would survive on 7.5 billion.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

"You sound a bit like those people who say that the Women's Premier League players should be paid the same as the men"

Indeed, but if that view is spouted often enough the sheep begin to believe it.

Same with the Premiership, it's a non stop drip drip drip of being brainwashed into buying a product that's claimed to be brilliant and the best, but in the cold light of day it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.

Even our old friends, that publically funded broadcaster the BBC tells you that "Match of the Day" has to be from the Premiership

Personally I would like corona to destroy the Premiership so we can have a rebirth of football based on attendance and not on watching it in the pub.