Bring back Grammar Schools.

[sinkov]

The Chase tonight, a very charming young lady was asked,

Q) In what country would you find the most northerly town in the UK ?

A) Lancaster

I rest my case.

[alfinyalcabo]

What a thicko,it's obviously Leeds .

[Balanbam00]

Alfi: No, its Liverpool,we have the Leeds and Liverpool canal, water always flowed past Rishton and Accy, to the direction of Leeds! Every schoolboy knows water flows down,not up,so Liverpool must be higher on the map ,not Leeds,then it is the most northerly city,but if we need a town,it must be Rishton. Plus most schoolboys know Leeds is a city,not a town,again,wrong answer.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The Chase tonight, a very charming young lady was asked,

Q) In what country would you find the most northerly town in the UK ?

A) Lancaster

I rest my case.

I think you are being your usual condescending ex-grammar schoolboy self on this one sinkov, the question is not exactly framed easy to answer, is it?

[sinkov]

I think you are being your usual condescending ex-grammar schoolboy self on this one sinkov, the question is not exactly framed easy to answer, is it?

It shouldn't be too difficult BT, for anyone who's had a half decent education, but sadly that's not what our education system currently provides. It's such a mess, and I don't see it improving any time soon, that I expect in the foreseeable future, 20 years, 30 years, 50 years, who knows, this once great country of ours will be reduced to an impoverished, insignificant backwater in world affairs. I'm just glad I certainly won't be around to see it.

[outwoodclaret]

I am also an ex-Grammar schoolboy and these schools provide top quality education imho. Many senior Labour politicians seem to agree when choosing their own children’s upbringing. If you want to see the failure in our education system I suggest you avoid visiting a grammar school on open day and instead join a street protest rally.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I am also an ex-Grammar schoolboy and these schools provide top quality education imho. Many senior Labour politicians seem to agree when choosing their own children’s upbringing. If you want to see the failure in our education system I suggest you avoid visiting a grammar school on open day and instead join a street protest rally.

I am certainly not suggesting for a moment there is anything wrong with a grammar school education, indeed I would like that standard of education offered and provided to all of our schoolchildren.

I always find comments from ex-grammar school pupils reek of elitism outwood, posts #1 & #5 sort of prove my point. I hated the fact I had to dig really deep to privately educate my brood, it went against all of my principles, but OMG did they get well educated? You bet they did!

[sinkov]

I am certainly not suggesting for a moment there is anything wrong with a grammar school education, indeed I would like that standard of education offered and provided to all of our schoolchildren.

I always find comments from ex-grammar school pupils reek of elitism outwood, posts #1 & #5 sort of prove my point. I hated the fact I had to dig really deep to privately educate my brood, it went against all of my principles, but OMG did they get well educated? You bet they did!

Never quite sure what was supposed to be elitist about Grammar Schools. I saw a BBC programme about Grammar Schools a couple of years ago, it ended with the statement, 'they were elitist, they had to go', yet the programme offered no evidence whatsoever that they were elitist, not surprising really, there isn't any and they weren't. Everyone from whatever background had the same opportunity to go to a Grammar School, you took the exam, you either passed and you were in, or you didn't and you weren't, nothing could have been fairer, or more egalitarian. What I liked about them especially was that they provided everyone with a good basic education, no matter what background you came from, the very opposite of elitist, and you could guarantee no one left thinking Lancaster was a country in the United Kingdom.

[Supersub6]

sinkov --I have to agree with all of that. I found that, amongst many of my friends who did not pass their 11 plus, it was they who created the elitism by saying that it was OK for me because I went to the grammar school. It meant nothing to me at all, I still kept the same mates, played sport with them and generally messed about with them all and certainly never discussed education with them ------but I was lucky to be going to grammar school --according to them!

[sinkov]

sinkov --I have to agree with all of that. I found that, amongst many of my friends who did not pass their 11 plus, it was they who created the elitism by saying that it was OK for me because I went to the grammar school. It meant nothing to me at all, I still kept the same mates, played sport with them and generally messed about with them all and certainly never discussed education with them ------but I was lucky to be going to grammar school --according to them!

It was never an issue when I was there Sub, not that I can recall anyway, there was a big group of us playing football and cricket together, some went to the Grammar School, some to the Tech, a couple to QUEGS, but we were mates, which school we went to was irrelevant, no one seemed to care.

In 57 or 58 I actually went on a trip to Kent from the Tech, no idea how I got invited, maybe there was a spare place and my parents money was as good as anyone elses, David Lloyd was on the trip as well, everyone called him Selly, but I was a Grammar School boy with all those lads from the Tech, no one bat an eyelid, I made some good friends, just not an issue. Happy days.