It's going to be a long hard winter...

[The Bedlington Terrier]

First of the warnings...

https://themanc.com/news/significant...8-3f4d2715779e

[sinkov]

It's hardly the first of the warnings mon ami, it was pointed out by the more sensible commentators back in 2008 that Labour's lunatic Climate Change Act, which set us on the road to Net Zero, would inevitably lead to winter power cuts at some point in the future, it was only ever a matter of when, not if. And that was 15 years ago.

I've made the same point time again on this forum ever since, Counciilor Jim, our erstwhile Lib Dem friend, even complained about me calling him an eco-loon, when I pointed out where his lunacy was leading us. I have to hold my hand up though, I lost, the eco loons won, and here we are today, facing a long cold winter, with no guaranteed leccy or gas. I am not a vindictive person, but I do hope when the lights go out, they go out in Morecambe first of all.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It's hardly the first of the warnings mon ami, it was pointed out by the more sensible commentators back in 2008 that Labour's lunatic Climate Change Act, which set us on the road to Net Zero, would inevitably lead to winter power cuts at some point in the future, it was only ever a matter of when, not if. And that was 15 years ago.

I've made the same point time again on this forum ever since, Counciilor Jim, our erstwhile Lib Dem friend, even complained about me calling him an eco-loon, when I pointed out where his lunacy was leading us. I have to hold my hand up though, I lost, the eco loons won, and here we are today, facing a long cold winter, with no guaranteed leccy or gas. I am not a vindictive person, but I do hope when the lights go out, they go out in Morecambe first of all.

I wondered how long it would take for it all to be Labour's fault. I've just been sent to the ASDA to buy some butter. A normal carton of Anchor spreadable butter set me back £5.50. I suppose that's Labour's fault too?

[Swissclaret]

I wondered how long it would take for it all to be Labour's fault. I've just been sent to the ASDA to buy some butter. A normal carton of Anchor spreadable butter set me back £5.50. I suppose that's Labour's fault too?

No it is not, BT.

I think that there is significant profiteering going on. Although I am fundamentally a capitalist, it sickens me that companies rape and pillage at will. I saw an add on TV the other day where one of the supermarkets chains in Britain claimed a “price check against Aldi”. That assumes that Aldi, Waitrose, Tesco, Asda and so on never talk to each other and don’t act in tandem. Aldi sets a price that includes a substantial profit margin so no one is losing out. Aldi is not operating at a loss!

There is no value in a company chasing the price to the bottom.

It is the same, or worse, in Switzerland. We have two major chains - Coop and Migros. Their prices are exhorbitant. A weekly shop for two people is around £300. In France, it is about one third of that. Yet everyone celebrates when Coop and Migros announce obscene profits every year. Work that one out.

There is a dark side to capitalism and society needs to address that, but not by nationalisation.

It always amazes me that, when the price of oil goes up, garages immediately put up prices even though they are selling petrol bought three month’s forward. Yet when the price of oil falls, the price at the pump takes weeks to fall back and rarely returns to the original price.

How is that acceptable?

[sinkov]

I wondered how long it would take for it all to be Labour's fault. I've just been sent to the ASDA to buy some butter. A normal carton of Anchor spreadable butter set me back £5.50. I suppose that's Labour's fault too?

Brexit mon ami, you voted for it, the Tories wanted us to stay in.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Brexit mon ami, you voted for it, the Tories wanted us to stay in.

Have you been on the laughing gas again mon ami?

Facts:
Just 1 out of 329 Tory MPs voted against LEAVING.
47 out of 229 Labour MPs voted against LEAVING.
Significantly 50 out of 54 SNP voted against LEAVING.

The Ayes have it.

"Capitalism can only work if it does not force the masses into penury." (BT 05/10/22)

[sinkov]

Have you been on the laughing gas again mon ami?

Facts:
Just 1 out of 329 Tory MPs voted against LEAVING.
47 out of 229 Labour MPs voted against LEAVING.
Significantly 50 out of 54 SNP voted against LEAVING.

The Ayes have it.

"Capitalism can only work if it does not force the masses into penury." (BT 05/10/22)

No idea just what those bizarre 'facts' are mon ami, perhaps you could explain. There was only one political party campaigning to
leave the EU, that was UKIP, all the others campaigned for Remain. Cameron, Osborne, May, and the vast majority of Tory MPs were Remainers.

[sinkov]

I wondered how long it would take for it all to be Labour's fault.

Still in Fantasy Land mon ami, where have I said it's all Labour's fault ?

[Balanbam00]

Swissclaret : ''There is a dark side to capitalism and society needs to address that, but not by nationalisation.''

Prout (the Progressive Utilization Theory) is a socioeconomic alternative model that promotes the welfare and development of every person, physically, mentally, and spiritually.

PRO gressive U tilisation T heory = PROUT

People in all nations must have their minimum necessities met in order to be productive and develop their full potentials. The five minimum necessities are: food (including pure drinking water), clothing, housing (including adequate
sanitation, energy, communication, and information), medical care, and education. These must be provided in a sustainable manner so that future generations can also meet their minimum necessities. The Brazilian spiritual activist Frei Betto called attention to this need when he said, “The degree of justice in a society can be evaluated by the way food is distributed amongst all of the citizens”

Prout (the Progressive Utilization Theory) is a socioeconomic alternative model that promotes the welfare and development of every person, physically, mentally, and spiritually. This article provides a brief introduction to some of the economic and social concepts of Prout, including guaranteeing minimum necessities to all, the right to jobs, a three-tiered economy, including small-scale private enterprises, cooperatives, and large-scale publicly owned key industries, food sovereignty, sustainable agriculture, proper utilization of natural and human resources, and economic democracy. Prout promotes an ecological and spiritual perspective that is universal and nondogmatic. Prout's holistic model provides an overarching framework to effectively measure and compare policies for the greater good of all people, as well as the planet.

https://www.anandamarga.org/pdf/news...rica/Prout.pdf

[ClaretinBudapest]

According to reports in The Times, the regulator has unveiled concerns that the country could face blackouts over the coming months thanks to an undersupply of gas to Europe caused by Russia’s war with Ukraine.

Very misleading article.Blame it all on Putin-very predictable.It is not caused by the war but by sanctions imposed on Russia by the UK and most of the EU as instructed by Bidet.They are collectively walking off a cliff into the abyss for a man you wouldn`t send out for a loaf.