RIP Pele BUT

[Untinted Glasses]

Was he that good? Genuine question. I have not seen a lot of him at all. Was he overhyped or was he really that good? Better than Maradona or Messi? It's easy for people to jump on the Pele bandwagon at such a sad time so just curious.

[kritichris]

He was brilliant at a time when balls were much heavier and football boots were like clogs and the opposition were allowed to kick you off the park.

[malwayne]

He was brilliant at a time when balls were much heavier and football boots were like clogs and the opposition were allowed to kick you off the park.

You shouldn’t have even have asked that question ! Just listen to what the media are saying about him-they cannot all be wrong, can they ?

[Untinted Glasses]

You shouldn’t have even have asked that question ! Just listen to what the media are saying about him-they cannot all be wrong, can they ?

Like they weren't all wrong about the "vaccine" and "convid". I remember them showing deaths in Italy and china. There not reporting all the sudden deaths now are they.

Andrew Tate suddenly being pushed out of news as a child trafficker and how he raped women whilst prince Andrew still is free. All the Epstein cover ups and lists not being published.

Like there not wrong about what is happening in Ukraine. How it is purely the west who have aggravated things and gone against the deal we made with Russia about NATO not expanding east of Germany.

Please dont encourage people to go off the media for god sake. Could you imagine some one on TV like neville saying "well he was average" it just wouldn't be aired.

I asked the question as they could have been people who had seen him play and not going off all the nostalgic bull**** that the media pumps out.

It is a forum is it not? It also seems like a quiet forum and posts in my opinion should be encouraged not discouraged.

[kritichris]

It is a forum and keep on posting UG but be prepared to take some stick (and give it) on here.
ps. you're not BT without his rose tinted glasses on are you?

[army88]

Was he that good? Genuine question. I have not seen a lot of him at all. Was he overhyped or was he really that good? Better than Maradona or Messi? It's easy for people to jump on the Pele bandwagon at such a sad time so just curious.

A great footballer but for NY cosmos in the main

Which for me puts him behind Maradona in the all time greatest deceased.

[army88]

A great footballer but for NY cosmos in the main

Which for me puts him behind Maradona in the all time greatest deceased.

Ok so we’ll go one further and say - never saw pele live but saw Maradona play even in his later days was an absolute genius.

It’s a little like todays Messi Ronaldo scenario one has been to several continents and leagues and became a superstar the other stayed at Barcelona , it’s opinions only for me Ronaldo is the better - and my reason for Maradona was / is that he won Napoli the titles on his own and world cups basically on his own aswel.

That was the basis of my opinion.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Ok so we’ll go one further and say - never saw pele live but saw Maradona play even in his later days was an absolute genius.

It’s a little like todays Messi Ronaldo scenario one has been to several continents and leagues and became a superstar the other stayed at Barcelona , it’s opinions only for me Ronaldo is the better - and my reason for Maradona was / is that he won Napoli the titles on his own and world cups basically on his own aswel.

That was the basis of my opinion.

None of the "others" ever won THREE World Cups army88. Pele was the best and no mistake.

[Supersub6]

I have been watching football since 1952 and Pele is the best player I have ever seen live. Tom Finney, George Best, JOhann Cruyff and Franz Beckenbauer would complete my top five.
Yes, plenty of 'stars' these days, however, the game has become so sterile on perfect pitches and with much of the physicality removed.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I had the immense pleasure to see him playing "live". He was a cross between a puma wearing football boots and a super human being.

Without any doubt whatsoever U_G he was the very best of the best.

A bit like our own Jimmy McIlroy, it's a shame a lot of his performances were never recorded on TV.