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    If not for Trafford that would have been 5 or 6-0 in the first half.We were abysmal.
    Liverpool bring on Jota and he scores.We bring on JBG and he misses an open goal header from 5 yards out.Enough said.
    Last edited by ClaretinBudapest; 26-12-2023 at 07:50 PM.

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    Not many thought we would get anything from this game. We were lucky and great skill from Trafford at one end, and ineffective and inexperienced in the other end. As long as we’re learning it’s not so bad.

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    The cross to Gudmunsson was a fraction too high. I’m sure he would have scored otherwise. The players who were bearing down on goal , not long before both goals were scored, should have at least forced Alison to make a save. That was disappointing for me.
    A team such as Wolves or Brighton would have beat Liverpool tonight. How they are top of this league i do not know. For all Klopp’s ranting on the touch line, they didn’t look like a title winning team to me, even with their disallowed goals.

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    Fine margins. I thought we were the better team for periods of the game. Not out of our depth.

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    Well in my opinion Liverpool had too much class for us and they deserved their win. However, I do not think you can criticise the effort put in by the players. No one has called the players for lack of effort and pride but today I clearly saw that effort bt the players. We are probably still going down but if that amount of effort is repeated in this second part of the season I will be happy that the team has tried. The only thing I would say we need an Andy Lochead -someone who will run through brick walls to either score or it results in a goal like Willie Irvine and that player could be Lyle Foster. There must be a Andy Lochead somewhere.

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    I thought the lads were fantastic today, 100% commitment all over the pitch and we thoroughly deserved a draw.

    Defensive shape was brilliant, Trafford is starting to show exactly why we paid that enormous sum of money for him, Taylor, O'Shea and Vitinho were all resilient and athletic.

    Amdouni ran his socks off, Odobert and Tresor were a real handful.

    We deserved a point and I think any criticism of today's effort is unfair and not merited.

    Forest winning was a body blow but I'm telling you now this team will pi$$ next season's Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I thought the lads were fantastic today, 100% commitment all over the pitch and we thoroughly deserved a draw.

    Defensive shape was brilliant, Trafford is starting to show exactly why we paid that enormous sum of money for him, Taylor, O'Shea and Vitinho were all resilient and athletic.

    Amdouni ran his socks off, Odobert and Tresor were a real handful.

    We deserved a point and I think any criticism of today's effort is unfair and not merited.

    Forest winning was a body blow but I'm telling you now this team will pi$$ next season's Championship.
    Did you not watch the first half BT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Did you not watch the first half BT?
    I was on the Turf with my youngest son and three grandkids CiB, with a bit more composure Amdouni could have scored before the Scousers did.

    Real glaring chances missed by JBG, Berge and Larsen, Foster worked hard but is obviously ring rusty, all five of us came off without a grumble and we all thought we deserved a draw.

    I often wonder if the TV presentation matches the live experience?

    Armchair fans. Pah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I was on the Turf with my youngest son and three grandkids CiB, with a bit more composure Amdouni could have scored before the Scousers did.

    Real glaring chances missed by JBG, Berge and Larsen, Foster worked hard but is obviously ring rusty, all five of us came off without a grumble and we all thought we deserved a draw.

    I often wonder if the TV presentation matches the live experience?

    Armchair fans. Pah!
    First half like I said we were abysmal BT.They simply walked through our defence on numerous occasions.Trafford was MOTM.Failed to clear our lines and gave the ball away in and around our penalty area.
    Second half we huffed and puffed but never tested their keeper.Odabert is a joy to watch.Amdouni was wasteful and Foster was not composed when presented with half chances.We never laid a glove on them BT.
    Plenty of effort in the second half but you cannot spurn chances like JBG`s header.
    You cannot perform for just 45 minutes of 90 minute games.
    Last edited by ClaretinBudapest; 27-12-2023 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I was on the Turf with my youngest son and three grandkids CiB, with a bit more composure Amdouni could have scored before the Scousers did.

    Real glaring chances missed by JBG, Berge and Larsen, Foster worked hard but is obviously ring rusty, all five of us came off without a grumble and we all thought we deserved a draw.

    I often wonder if the TV presentation matches the live experience?

    Armchair fans. Pah!
    On another day we could have scored 3 and won 3-2 ( Salah cross bar should have scored )

    However we start games badly and imo anyway we don’t have the speed in transition and early in games this gives good teams the impetus and we end up chasing the games.

    So whilst we should have worked Becker at one end ( Tresor refused to shoot ) they beat our press and we’re scoring at our end in seconds - slickly they moved the ball at pace and whilst we got bodies back Nunez was allowed to shoot through crowded players and it’s 0-1.

    From that point on the bin dippers controlled the game with relative ease.

    Second half was marked improvement and we raised our game to create some clear cut chances and score however for me we are very passive and non aggressive to win games ( too nice ) and lack a leader a big physical boy who gets about people centrally.

    Anyway we had our go for 20/25 mins and should have scored JBG ( slows us down and should only play 5/10 mins at most ) Larson was new to the game with his chance but you have to work the keeper regardless and Berge s header well there is no comments for that.

    Positive is Odebert who looks a handful and will only improve for his game time at this level he frightened their back line to death - Arnold couldn’t deal with him anyway. ( we won’t hang on to him I don’t think but he’ll go for good money eventually). Amdouni is a very intelligent footballer with quick brain and feet and he’s improving at this high level.
    Tresor showed me enough to think he can play at this level his touch and carry of the ball was very good but not the finished article.

    Overall the scousers were too quick in transition in with a bit too much quality for us and to put it in a bit of perspective Nunez cost £75 million for one player - we spent 97million on 15 players that shows how quickly football has moved even when we spend 100 million we are still miles off

    A decent performance for me against a side that had too much for us on the day - can’t really be negative other than if you give teams like Liverpool a goal start and you struggle to score goals there is generally only one outcome. ( it’s sucked the life out of the stadium as well - didn’t help )

    Mention for Trafford again who I’ve stuck with as I thought he was immense

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