LiVARpool

[Zippity]

The name exists for a reason.

Van Dickk's shoulder into Gordon's face. If it had been an elbow, he would have been off and it would have been a pen (Wright and Keane's opinion but correct, imo)-what difference should the fact that it was a deliberate shoulder rather than an elbow into his face have made?

The Isak pen...clear trip in the box. Ref was shite at best, corrupt at worst. VAR had no excuse-just corrupt.

The Ref blowing up when we had a three on one. Is anyone in any doubt that, if the roles had been reversed, the Ref would have let that final passage of play play out?

This isn't even sour grapes. I'm delighted with a point against the best team in the league, and possibly in Europe. Butyou want it to be a level playing field...and it just isn't.

I know it all sounds like a conspiracy theory seen through a black and white lens but, if you subscribe to the view that there is a cartel which is stopping clubs like ourselves and Villa from competing with them (and the evidence for that being the case is compelling), is it too much of a stretch to believe that the cartel have the refs in their pocket?

Personally, I don't have any trouble believing it.

[Guybrush]

Yeah, managed to watch MOTD last night and was thinking the same.

VVD should have undoubtedly seen red for that shoulder? it was way more violent conduct than pulling someone?s hair ffs

Not sure about that leading to a penalty, my argument being that it was an off the ball incident? but I wouldn?t have said no to one

Surely VAR is there to look back at something clearly missed by the ref? or at the very least, I?d expect a retrospective red card and 3 game ban.


The penalty for Isak was a clear and obvious error. Again, VAR should have brought it to refs attention if he was letting that go.

The high bar just seems to be a lot higher for some teams than others.

And no way the game should have been stopped in that moment.

Total bias in Liverpools favour in that game, and totally unacceptable.

[Ragatino]

The name exists for a reason.

Van Dickk's shoulder into Gordon's face. If it had been an elbow, he would have been off and it would have been a pen (Wright and Keane's opinion but correct, imo)-what difference should the fact that it was a deliberate shoulder rather than an elbow into his face have made?

The Isak pen...clear trip in the box. Ref was shite at best, corrupt at worst. VAR had no excuse-just corrupt.

The Ref blowing up when we had a three on one. Is anyone in any doubt that, if the roles had been reversed, the Ref would have let that final passage of play play out?

This isn't even sour grapes. I'm delighted with a point against the best team in the league, and possibly in Europe. Butyou want it to be a level playing field...and it just isn't.

I know it all sounds like a conspiracy theory seen through a black and white lens but, if you subscribe to the view that there is a cartel which is stopping clubs like ourselves and Villa from competing with them (and the evidence for that being the case is compelling), is it too much of a stretch to believe that the cartel have the refs in their pocket?

Personally, I don't have any trouble believing it.

I have no doubt what so ever there is complete and total bias that is indeed lead by the people in the dark corridors of the premier league ensure that the Red Cartel get the rub of the green and as much assistance as possible to ensure they take the glory and lift silverware on a seasonal basis.

Jim 'Offshore Quim' Rat Face admitted that 'The Man U used to get special privileges from the Premier League, we must revisit that to ensure we still maintain those advantages'.

What, like the ?40million additional debt those scumbags were allowed to write off during covid when the rest of us were only allowed to write off ?1million.

Like I said, I'm bored now. It needs to stop.

We need to stop moaning as fans of clubs and united to take control of the sport and put an end to all the EPL / Cartel led corruption.

The last thing we need is government oversight. Those clowns have proven sure fire disaster will follow once they stick their noses in.

The Fans should be the regulator. A board of fans from each club from across the football pyramid, not some appointed stooge of the political class or shills of the cartel.

[toptoon]

I watched the game for the first time last night. What a game of football!

The blowing of the whistle early, I can live with, but there needs to be consistency in games. Maybe take the time keeping off the pitch, like rugby union, where the ref signals to stop the clock?

Speaking of rugby, the VDV assault wouldve been a red card in rugby - no question. WTF do those people in VAR do during a game??!??
Gordon was flat out. They had lots of time to check and it is irrelevant to think VDV wanted to shoulder barge him. He didn?t and it was a head shot. Very dangerous - red card all day.

It was also a penalty. First contact was Isaks leg - no doubt.

[ex_pat_magpie]

The name exists for a reason.

Van Dickk's shoulder into Gordon's face. If it had been an elbow, he would have been off and it would have been a pen (Wright and Keane's opinion but correct, imo)-what difference should the fact that it was a deliberate shoulder rather than an elbow into his face have made?

The Isak pen...clear trip in the box. Ref was shite at best, corrupt at worst. VAR had no excuse-just corrupt.

The Ref blowing up when we had a three on one. Is anyone in any doubt that, if the roles had been reversed, the Ref would have let that final passage of play play out?

This isn't even sour grapes. I'm delighted with a point against the best team in the league, and possibly in Europe. Butyou want it to be a level playing field...and it just isn't.

I know it all sounds like a conspiracy theory seen through a black and white lens but, if you subscribe to the view that there is a cartel which is stopping clubs like ourselves and Villa from competing with them (and the evidence for that being the case is compelling), is it too much of a stretch to believe that the cartel have the refs in their pocket?

Personally, I don't have any trouble believing it.

Not a conspiracy theory and not even black and white specks.

Most of my neighbours in our close are supporters of various other teams and every single one of them, apart from the single one who supports Liverpool, summed the game and officials up exactly as you did.

[toptoon]

Not a conspiracy theory and not even black and white specks.

Most of my neighbours in our close are supporters of various other teams and every single one of them, apart from the single one who supports Liverpool, summed the game and officials up exactly as you did.

No mackems there I hope, Pat?

[ex_pat_magpie]

No mackems there I hope, Pat?

I don't even know if they are aware that Blunderland still has a team.

Joking apart, they are obviously mainly Palace with a few Chelski and Brighton followers, one Citeh, one Liverpool and myself.

Must say though they all seem to like our style when we are on song as we were on Wednesday.

Most of them are quite knowledgeble and hark back to the Toon of the KK and Sir Bobby days

[Jammy89]

The name exists for a reason.

Van Dickk's shoulder into Gordon's face. If it had been an elbow, he would have been off and it would have been a pen (Wright and Keane's opinion but correct, imo)-what difference should the fact that it was a deliberate shoulder rather than an elbow into his face have made?

The Isak pen...clear trip in the box. Ref was shite at best, corrupt at worst. VAR had no excuse-just corrupt.

The Ref blowing up when we had a three on one. Is anyone in any doubt that, if the roles had been reversed, the Ref would have let that final passage of play play out?

This isn't even sour grapes. I'm delighted with a point against the best team in the league, and possibly in Europe. Butyou want it to be a level playing field...and it just isn't.

I know it all sounds like a conspiracy theory seen through a black and white lens but, if you subscribe to the view that there is a cartel which is stopping clubs like ourselves and Villa from competing with them (and the evidence for that being the case is compelling), is it too much of a stretch to believe that the cartel have the refs in their pocket?

Personally, I don't have any trouble believing it.

I don't think it's a conspiracy theory at all.

I think it's completely true.

Had it been other way - it would have been 2 pens for LiVARpool and the 3 on 1 would have been allowed to stand.

[Ragatino]

I don't think it's a conspiracy theory at all.

I think it's completely true.

Had it been other way - it would have been 2 pens for LiVARpool and the 3 on 1 would have been allowed to stand.

Yeah, exactly Jamjam. It's a conspiracy, not a theory.

The evidence is plain to see, even from a plane flying over

the plainnnnnnns doooown in AAAAAAAFRICA.

Toto on in the car