Andrew Nestor Game Model

[Prando]

https://trainingground.guru/andrew-n...-a-game-model/

Not sure this game model works !

Poor release timing (20th April) !!

[SwedishBaggie]

https://trainingground.guru/andrew-n...-a-game-model/

Not sure this game model works !

Poor release timing (20th April) !!

?The importance of mixing young players and veterans??

[Bombers right foot]

Reading this no wonder Mowbray failed, looks like he was told how to play and what to do, pointless having a coach if his ideas and plans are restricted

[Prando]

Reading this no wonder Mowbray failed, looks like he was told how to play and what to do, pointless having a coach if his ideas and plans are restricted

I thought the same. An extremely complex scenario to govern what is essentially a simple game. Interesting to see whom the data throws up as the next ideal choice !

[Leicesterbaggie]

I think that I am a reasonably intelligent individual but what is all that about?

[baggiematt]

I think this is exactly why Mowbray didn't fit. A lot of successful clubs have a model and then recruit managers and players around that. Otherwise players are in and out of favour each time we get a new manager and it's a total waste of money. Liverpool and Brighton are great examples.

Mowbray is old school though, and I doubt he would want a team approach to how we are going to play. He would want total control.

First failure of the game model though: they appointed the wrong bloke.

[WBA123]

Some negativity on here, but I like this. Its exactly what we need.

If you look at clubs like Brighton and Brentford, it doesn't matter if their head coach leaves. They have a list of alternative managers ready to step in and implement the style and formation the club has been run on for years.

For example, we employed Ismael who played 3 at the back. Sacked him after 6 months and brought in Bruce who typically played 4 at the back. Both of their systems were at odds with each other. We would recruit players based on what a manager wants, but then a managers life cycle is less than 18 months. Do we then change our whole recruiting process for the next manager?

We need a formation and style of play that runs from the 1st team and all the way through the academy. So that academy players know the system and positions to play. We need a manager who can get on board with that.

Effectively, its good to have a decent manager don't get me wrong. But the sporting director is probably a more important position. We need a successful model for the club to run on. Not a different one every time we need a new manager.

[soulman101]

The likes of Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth use methods like this .
It's the only way unless you buy success and promotion, like our local rivals . But you need a coach like Carlos to embrace and develop the plan .
I myself would rather earn success than buy it , that's what sport should be about .

[On Balance]

https://trainingground.guru/andrew-n...-a-game-model/

Not sure this game model works !

Poor release timing (20th April) !!

In all honesty reading that and the link re TM posted by Soulman, it is explicably clear why we are where we are. I would imagine TM is most likely glad he has gone. Managing a side in the way he was asked to is not really managing a side at all.

We will see when the next manager/coach/lamb to the slaughter arrives how this theory works for them. Take all of this nonsense and Tony Mowbray’s explanation of why Dike did not feature as much as fans would have liked, I think it does not take a brain surgeon to understand the problems that Tony Mowbray was facing.

Mowbray appeared to make strange selections, these appear driven by more than one force. Prando hits the nail on the head when he says, “An extremely complex scenario to govern what is essentially a simple game. Interesting to see whom the data throws up as the next ideal choice.”

Interesting or perhaps worrying, having a coach or manager who is not permitted to manage. Who would want a job like that?

[WBA123]

In all honesty reading that and the link re TM posted by Soulman, it is explicably clear why we are where we are. I would imagine TM is most likely glad he has gone. Managing a side in the way he was asked to is not really managing a side at all.

We will see when the next manager/coach/lamb to the slaughter arrives how this theory works for them. Take all of this nonsense and Tony Mowbray?s explanation of why Dike did not feature as much as fans would have liked, I think it does not take a brain surgeon to understand the problems that Tony Mowbray was facing.

Mowbray appeared to make strange selections, these appear driven by more than one force. Prando hits the nail on the head when he says, ?An extremely complex scenario to govern what is essentially a simple game. Interesting to see whom the data throws up as the next ideal choice.?

Interesting or perhaps worrying, having a coach or manager who is not permitted to manage. Who would want a job like that?

I don't see it that way. They are allowed to manage, but they have to manage within the model.

So if we play a particular formation, any manager who we speak with will need to be on board with that. We also want a manager who is going to give our younger players exposure, because the more they play and perform - the more resale value we have.

At times recently, we've dropped Fellows and played Diangana or Swift. Why? They are leaving for nothing at the end of the season. Its not like they really added anything anyway, but Fellows could have got another 2, 3, 4 assists and his stats look even more appealing to a buyer. If we sell Fellows for 15m, it gives us an option to reinvest that money on other players.

Had Wildsmith not been so mistake prone, he would likely still be in goal instead of Griffiths...again, which one has more resale value? This is common sense, and we need a manager on board with it. Maybe we could put up with it if we were winning games, but we haven't been. So TM failed that test miserably.

I also notice he made similar comments when he left Sunderland, who wanted a manager to develop younger players. They have the same idea as us. The club has to be on the same page as the manager, and we clearly weren't with TM.