The Noise

[Cannylad]

Can anyone really truthfully disagree with this, I certainly can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-STyEhMGfik&t=1479s

[Cannylad]

Sorry lads my computer is 'kin haywire, go to The Noise on Youtube and click on "They're gaslighting the fans"
For some reason Youtube wont let me send the link. I'll try the link again below but doubt it will work, sorry again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-STyEhMGfik&t=1493s

Just tried it again and it's working now ??

[Curian]

Yeah he’s been saying for the last few videos something similar. He was a supporter of Eddie but he has had enough of the weekly bull post match talks. Sadly I am definitely leaning his way.

[HughieG]

I don't like the way that dude is talking about Eddie. Gaslighting etc. - that's a pretty aggressive word to use about a football manager ffs.

Take a break from YouTube.

[Curian]

He was an avid supporter of Eddie but has turned. He can get very emotional and then the expletives flow from him.

[Cannylad]

I quite understand that Eddie has done very good things with the club which I praise him for but why is he untouchable when he makes crap judgements. It seems we have to walk on eggshells around him and it's like the Spanish Court of Inquisition when anyone faults him. I'll get my tin helmet out now ready for the flak.

[HughieG]

I don't know that anyone has to walk on eggshells with regards to critcism of Eddie, Canny. Maybe if you're living in the city there's a different 'touchiness' to the subject.

Personally, I've been quite clear in my criticism of Eddie - where I think he's going wrong and how he, unfortunately, doesn't seem to be able to turn things around for the better. And even if I'd like for him to turn things around, I'm starting to think that a change in management might be the best solution for all.

Singing Eddie's praises when things are going well and then ranting when things aren't going well must be the easiest thing in the world. It's not hard to agree with the sentiments of the video-man, it's just the way it's done that I find, frankly, disrespectful.

[Zippity]

Agree, Hughie. Whatever anyone's stance on Eddie, the one thing nobody should do is show him the disrespect that some e-fans have.

In the same way you can earn the right to be respected-which he has done without a shadow of doubt-, you can earn the right to be disrespected. McClaren, Allardyce, Pardew, Bruce-they 'earned' the stick they got by disrespecting fans which they did by treating us as idiots (the post-.match excuses, telling us to disbelieve the evidence of our own eyes, having little digs at us).

Some of the e-fans commenting on social media have very short memories and are treating him like the managers I mentioned above. I'm not saying he can't be criticised but some of the insults and claims are outrageous and out of order.

The feeling in the City is more balanced but heading more towards the position you outlined, Hughie. There's a tangible air of sadness around conversations about Eddie and the situation we find ourselves in because the feeling seems to be, increasingly, that he can't fix it and it may be time to make a change.

9 defeats out of 12 is more than a blip and I would say the balance is about 50/50 on wanting him gone or wanting him to stay.

I know I'm only basing this on conversations I've had or conversations friends have had with other people but, genuinely, it is the topic of conversation everyone turns to at the moment.

[OwdBillCook]

it is the topic of conversation everyone turns to at the moment.

Well, how could it not be? After such a period of real achievements, Eddie has had a disaster of a season. And, beyond any possible doubt, needs to take the major blame. Who or what else? Bad start - oh, well the Isak debacle derailed us. Not getting better? Aye, well Wissa got injured and we'll be fine once he's OK. Anyway, Woltemade has 6 goals in 5 matches - so what's the prob. Oh, and we have a fixtures pile-up, so the poor old players are tired out. It'll get better when we're in less competitions.
But, as the season went on and on, it didn't get better. In fact, it got worse.
To me, Eddie appeared totally out of his depth this season. Easy to manage a team when all the players are with you. When the manager and the players are "the team". If that was the case, then Eddie could be the New Fergie or the New Wenger, and carry on achieving for years.
I really hoped for that, but I'm not seeing it at all.
It does seem to me that Eddie - if he is to continue as our manager - needs a huge mental reset. I do not understand why he appears so inflexible, as he seems a very intelligent guy. Surely, he must be looking at successful managers in the UK and around Europe. But he appears to me to be thinking inwards, not looking outwards. He seems to feel under great threat, and therefore sticking to his guns. Even if they haven't fired a deadly shot for some time.
I really, really hope that he can have a summer of deep reflection. I suspect that he is just overwhelmed at the moment. That what he needs to do is mentally step back, to see the woodland despite the trees being in the way all the time.
Unfortunately, I think he is under too much mental pressure. I think he could do it, but that the present circumstances aren't allowing the space and time for it to happen.
I really think it might be best for Newcastle, and for him in both the short and long term, if we had a change.
It's not what I'd want though. I really believe we have world-class manager. Just one who is - temporarily - in too deep.

[5under1and]

I understand all of your posts but just a few things
We won a cup just over a year ago how many premier teams can say that and do we have short memories
We were kicked in the teeth by our main striker which must of caused some disruption in the team
Clearly got two strikers in at the last minute that have not worked I just wonder who?s decision that was
We have had a difficult season I think up until last month we had played more games then any other club in Europe with again massive injuries
The press have spent last year and all of this year trying to unsettle are players and Eddie even this week they are saying that he will be the next Chelsea manager
Eddie should have a statue of himself outside of the ground not attacked by the fans