Indy Mk II

[Mason89]

kinda telling that you say they are racist by being xenophobic yourself.

When they were interviewing those people in Hartlepool, none of them mentioned their rejection of a neoliberal superstate. It was all my dad fought in the war shyte

[Stupie82]

It wasnt 30% of SNP voters that won it though. Let's face it, they probably thought they were doing their Queen Niccy a favour. In the last couple of days, I've heard it described as an anti establishment vote, a victory for the left & my favourite, a rejection of the neoliberal superstate. Really it's because English people don't like Johnny Foreigner.

Seems to me the only people "dressing it up" as you put it, are the media and those who didn't get what they wanted. Im sorry, but in no way are over half of English and Welsh people racist, have racist tendencies or are Xenophobic. Nationalism there means just as much as it does here, but just like here there are those extreme views that latch onto a campaign. You cannot just summarise a nation as racist because that's what you think. Im not denying there are xenophobes or racists among the ranks, but then there were those who were in the Indy ranks like that too. Those people are made more of an example of, but the reality is they make up a very small proportion.

[Aldo1983]

The media not getting what they wanted?

The Sun and the Daily Mail are the two biggest selling newspapers by some margin.

That's the Daily Mail that made it all about immigration.

[Stupie82]

The media not getting what they wanted?

The Sun and the Daily Mail are the two biggest selling newspapers by some margin.

That's the Daily Mail that made it all about immigration.

I don't read newspapers so I cant comment, though I should have made it clear I meant the like the BBC and SKY when talking about the mdeia, and they did not get what they wanted. Despite the pro-EU propaganda, and there was plenty, it went against them.

[Getintaethem]

When they were interviewing those people in Hartlepool, none of them mentioned their rejection of a neoliberal superstate. It was all my dad fought in the war shyte

Having a dad fight in the war is a sign of racism now is it?

Edit: The point in the statement about the war was that their relatives fought in a war against a non democratic state that was going to rule over us. They see the same thing happening with the EU. A non democratic institution that makes laws that the UK needs to follow. It is a perfectly natural opinion. Nothing whatsoever to do with race.

[Mason89]

Having a dad fight in the war is a sign of racism now is it?

Edit: The point in the statement about the war was that their relatives fought in a war against a non democratic state that was going to rule over us. They see the same thing happening with the EU. A non democratic institution that makes laws that the UK needs to follow. It is a perfectly natural opinion. Nothing whatsoever to do with race.

Aye, that's exactly what they were thinking

[Aldo1983]

I'm sure SKY were quite happy since Rupert owns them.

So basically some media weren't happy and some (the ones with the biggest readership and one of the most viewed websites in the world) were?

The anti immigration propaganda worked then?

[Getintaethem]

Aye, that's exactly what they were thinking

seriously, you have based your argument that 52% of the English and Welsh are racist based on what you think they were thinking.

[Getintaethem]

I'm sure SKY were quite happy since Rupert owns them.

That will come as a shock to the majority of shareholders that own SKY.

[Mason89]

You're right, I do t know what they were thinking. Maybe 79 year old Hilda Sproggins from Rochdale did despair the neoliberal policies of the European Union, more than she disliked the family of brown folk that moved in two streets over. We'll never know. All we can say for sure is that 17 million people like her, voted for a campaign that was centred around xenophobia