Looking at Rafa's words

[Jammy89]

I certainly agree that not being able to get rid of players has muddied the waters.

That has really hurt us this window.

[toonlegend]

"he hasnt said ash broke any promises or indeed made any promises

he has just said things haven worked out as the thought "

i would suggest that rafa has indicated quite clearly that ashley has broken promises/renaged on what he said when he uttered the words

"ASHLEY KNOWS WHAT HE PROMISED ME..... " just the other day

[ex_pat_magpie]

i dont think so i say in all my posts if rafa hadnt been in a rush as i am 100 certain the 4 that rafa wants gone were all about to go
and indeed we had 3 players lined up to come in

rafa gave charnley an ultimatum and wanted full control

ash didnt want carr to go

it was rafas choice

he has full controll

it is his players

he needs to get on with the job
hopefully with a win today

but i see he is already getting his ducks in a line by saying the huddersfield manager has it easy

typical whinging spaniard

Just read your post below from 9/8/17 thread Net spend £21 million.

Quote by Pboro SAying AshleY was in a rush to get rid of Carr


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4 players for every position. Now you really don't know how things work. That's 4 X 11 = 44 players. How big a squad do you think we are allowed. Get real man.

Why do you need to distort every single report about Rafa.

The list was NEVER FOUR PLAYERS FOR EVERY POSITION.

The list was for four KEY PLAYERS and Ashley's puppet couldn't even count that far.
No it want
If ash hadn't been Ina hurry to get rid of Carr the four he wanted gone would have been sold
He threw away carrs list and had his own

There are 4 goalies on that list why do we need a new goalie
If we had bundles maybe
But he was aware we didn't

That lot that card would have sold and had clubs for all of them would have released 3000k a week

Truth is Rafa wanted control he got it

Charnley is experienced at getting players in
But I can tell you he is chasing his tail trying to get rafas players in

7 of the players he had on his list we didn't even know who there agent was and couldn't get hold of them

We weren't prepared as we were with carrs list i.e. Buy out clauses etc

So by getting rid of a manwhonhad been in charge of player recruitment with no proper back up has caused most of the issues

[pboromag]

"he hasnt said ash broke any promises or indeed made any promises

he has just said things haven worked out as the thought "

i would suggest that rafa has indicated quite clearly that ashley has broken promises/renaged on what he said when he uttered the words

"ASHLEY KNOWS WHAT HE PROMISED ME..... " just the other day

he hasnt said anything about promises
just things havent worked out how he thought

that could mean a million and one things

he needs to stop bleeting
lets face it his tactics ,formations etc aint filling many of us with much hope

maybe he needs to show ash he can manage at this level in this day and age

he certainly brought us down playing negative footy

we played negative footy in the fizzy with some great players for that standard

and we certainly have played the most boring footy for the first two games with his players

i certainly cant see anthing that would make me open my wallet for him

[toonlegend]

he hasnt said anything about promises
just things havent worked out how he thought

that could mean a million and one things

he needs to stop bleeting
lets face it his tactics ,formations etc aint filling many of us with much hope

maybe he needs to show ash he can manage at this level in this day and age

he certainly brought us down playing negative footy

we played negative footy in the fizzy with some great players for that standard

and we certainly have played the most boring footy for the first two games with his players

i certainly cant see anthing that would make me open my wallet for him

it could mean a million things but it was said in response to questions re transfer dealings, players in and out and ashley's part in it all.

[toonlegend]

the thing that SHOULD make him open his wallet is the threat of yet another relegation .. and then another and another etc etc etc

but he's as thick as pig **** and won't.

[pboromag]

it could mean a million things but it was said in response to questions re transfer dealings, players in and out and ashley's part in it all.

i agree but he hasnt said ash has promised him any money etc
he has said things havent worked out how he thought

ie he may have thought certain players would be gone

and if they had certain players might hve come in

but the players havent gone .not because ash had anything to do with it ,but that players rule the roost

[gogz_86]

I actually think we could have done well if it wasn't for some selfish mercenaries....the fact that Ashley is a complete and utter ****e isn't going to change the reality...

Some of these idiot mercenaries should have left the moment Rafa told them they're not part of his plans...

Lazaar
Hanley
Krul (although I quite liked him)
Colback
Saivet
Haidara
Riviere

All these would free up £300k per week and allow for some good loan signing...you could offer 3 quality player £100k a week on loan basis just for the year...

I think Rafa has realised that Ashley won't do anything even if we are relegated. He has reached a point where he won't pump and more money in and the biggest fear is that if we get relegated again....he won't bank roll the club...and the shoe string championship budget will be a nightmare....we're in big trouble if we don't survive this season...the only positive is next years fresh tv rights income

[Nufc24Mag]

I actually think we could have done well if it wasn't for some selfish mercenaries....the fact that Ashley is a complete and utter ****e isn't going to change the reality...

Some of these idiot mercenaries should have left the moment Rafa told them they're not part of his plans...

Lazaar
Hanley
Krul (although I quite liked him)
Colback
Saivet
Haidara
Riviere

and allow for some good loan signing...you could offer 3 quality player £100k a week on loan basis just for the year...

U seem to forget we have Ashley as owner, even if we had 500 grand a week spare he wouldn't pay any player 100 grand a week

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[ex_pat_magpie]

I actually think we could have done well if it wasn't for some selfish mercenaries....the fact that Ashley is a complete and utter ****e isn't going to change the reality...

Some of these idiot mercenaries should have left the moment Rafa told them they're not part of his plans...

Lazaar
Hanley
Krul (although I quite liked him)
Colback
Saivet
Haidara
Riviere

All these would free up £300k per week and allow for some good loan signing...you could offer 3 quality player £100k a week on loan basis just for the year...

I think Rafa has realised that Ashley won't do anything even if we are relegated. He has reached a point where he won't pump and more money in and the biggest fear is that if we get relegated again....he won't bank roll the club...and the shoe string championship budget will be a nightmare....we're in big trouble if we don't survive this season...the only positive is next years fresh tv rights income

And we have to be sure of staying up to be involved with that. Left to Ashley and Charnley that can't be guaranteed.