O/T Its surprising how people vote

[Ponte_Steve24]

I'm very interested to hear from posters or have relatives and friends who work within the NHS .

Your comments good , bad or indifferent would be greatly appreciated .

Feel free to PM me if you don't want it placed on here and I'll fill in the detail .

Thanks .

I just might do mate.

[lk311]

My best M8 is an Accountant for NHS and some of the stories are a real eye opener

[SBRed48]

An uncle of sumdi a used to know in Warrington got trained as a doctor fo five years fo "free"plus a maintenance grant, all taxpayer funded. He worked for two years in the NHS and then took on private work and became a consultant. He ez a contract with the NHS which allows him to work 40% NHS/60% Private, using NHS facilities, theatre time, nursing and support staff etc. He can't stop laughing--he gets £85,000 forriz 40% NHS contract and fo the private work he does allowing the rich to queue jump he pockets £235,000. His rich clients are happy pushing the plebs to the back of a long queue, he's happy coining it. It meks me sick.

[yorkshireborn]

An uncle of sumdi a used to know in Warrington got trained as a doctor fo five years fo "free"plus a maintenance grant, all taxpayer funded. He worked for two years in the NHS and then took on private work and became a consultant. He ez a contract with the NHS which allows him to work 40% NHS/60% Private, using NHS facilities, theatre time, nursing and support staff etc. He can't stop laughing--he gets £85,000 forriz 40% NHS contract and fo the private work he does allowing the rich to queue jump he pockets £235,000. His rich clients are happy pushing the plebs to the back of a long queue, he's happy coining it. It meks me sick.

this is what all consultants do.
our lasses back has been a problem for many years and we got sick of being pushed around from physiotherapy and outpatients so we went private to get it finally sorted we had the very same consultant that we saw in hospital thru NHS. she had op at nuffields cost 1400 for a 40 min keyhole op and it was the best 1400 ever spent. it got us sorted 18months quicker than it would have been.

[SBRed48]

this is what all consultants do.
our lasses back has been a problem for many years and we got sick of being pushed around from physiotherapy and outpatients so we went private to get it finally sorted we had the very same consultant that we saw in hospital thru NHS. she had op at nuffields cost 1400 for a 40 min keyhole op and it was the best 1400 ever spent. it got us sorted 18months quicker than it would have been.

Tha cuddant ev illustrated my point better.

[lk311]

Yup, your local GP is just as bad too apparently.

[KerrAvon]

Just an example of my comments in the previous post .

Bit by bit we are seeing the NHS getting handed over to the private sector .


https://www.theguardian.com/society/...bsidiary-firms

Did you read the article, animal? It's about NHS staff being transfered to companies owned by NHS Trusts. How can that amount to the NHS getting handed over to the private sector?

What is the issue with private companies undertaking aspects of NHS work if that reduces the cost to the taxpayer? What's not to like about that?

[KerrAvon]

An uncle of sumdi a used to know in Warrington got trained as a doctor fo five years fo "free"plus a maintenance grant, all taxpayer funded. He worked for two years in the NHS and then took on private work and became a consultant. He ez a contract with the NHS which allows him to work 40% NHS/60% Private, using NHS facilities, theatre time, nursing and support staff etc. He can't stop laughing--he gets £85,000 forriz 40% NHS contract and fo the private work he does allowing the rich to queue jump he pockets £235,000. His rich clients are happy pushing the plebs to the back of a long queue, he's happy coining it. It meks me sick.

He would train for a hell of a lot longer than five years to reach consultant level and certainly didn’t reach that grade after just two years.

If he wants to undertake more remunerative work delivering private health care, what's wrong with that?

If he uses NHS facilities, his private employer will be paying for that. Again, what isn't to like about the NHS securing additional funding in that way?

On my calculation, he'll be paying something in the region of £140,000 in tax every year. That will have paid for his university education many times over and helps to fund public services, including the NHS.

It’s wrong to assume that private patients are all rich. Many will have insurance either because they've chosen to pay for it or are given it as part of their employment. Some others will be people who have just been thrifty and saved. Every one of them will reduce the burden on the NHS by going private (in addition to paying tax that goes towards funding it}.

The simple fact is that the NHS is very expensive. According to the internet, when the NHS was launched in 1948, it had a budget of £437 million (roughly £15 billion at today's value). For 2015/16, the overall NHS budget was around £116.4 billion. So that's nearly an eight fold increase. As I pointed out above, Johnny Taxpayer seems reluctant to pick up that tab and Labour's policy of 'someone else will pay' is hardly a realistic option.

[red flagged]

The NHS spends billions every year treating health tourists which it doesnt recover due to the 'free at the point of delivery' mantra.

when you open up your borders to the sh1thole countries of the world why do you expect the queues for free healthcare,welfare and education to be anything other than large getting larger ?

But of course, it's the Tory cuts isn't it ?!

In other news I see the old commie has betrayed the will of the Barnsley electorate on the subject of Brexit in order to garner a greater share of the vote. unreported in the Guardian his sidekick was 'caught' with a plaque on his office wall this week commemorating IRA members lost in 'the struggle'
Not to worry though, the red rosette wearing rocking horse has just had it's wheels oiled by that lovely Max Mosley.

[animallittle3]

Did you read the article, animal? It's about NHS staff being transfered to companies owned by NHS Trusts. How can that amount to the NHS getting handed over to the private sector?

What is the issue with private companies undertaking aspects of NHS work if that reduces the cost to the taxpayer? What's not to like about that?

Kerr , if you can't see the ploy then I'm certainly not going to waste my time explaining it to you .