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Thread: Now Pardew has gone

  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughieG View Post
    It's not a problem for me to say that I had a very good time as a NUFC supporter the season we finished fifth. Why wouldn't I? Things were going well, the players and the manager were doing a good job. No one can take that away from them.

    It's the following seasons that proved just how talentless Pardew is as a manager, and it's natural to then think that finishing fifth was somewhat of a fluke, especially looking at his record since leaving. Not only was he not up to the task of keeping the team somewhat up to speed in the Premier League; he had us in a relegation battle almost straightaway! Since then he had a couple of decent Novembers and that's about it.

    Giving Pardew a contract of eight years was just...wow. Unbelievable. It's still a mystery that we were actually able to get a compensation fee for him.
    You don't get manager of the year on a fluke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    It's not difficult for me to back up.
    Let's start with Holloway.
    Then McClaren.
    Zola.
    Lawrie Sanchez.
    Mark Hughes.
    Paul Jewel.
    Ian Dowie.
    Peter Reid.

    There's plenty more and plenty of managers that he's as good as, pound for pound.

    Let's put it in simple terms. He's not the worst ever manager by a long long way and there is absolutely no reason that I can think of for anyone to hate the man.
    However, anyone can do what they feel is best for them in hating him or whatever.
    I don't think he deserves it....especially from Newcastle fans who not too far into the distant past were begging him not to take the England job.
    Aye, some terrible manager, eh?
    At last the money goes where the mouth is.

    But are we not talking about classier managers where you bracket Pardew and say you would prefer him to Rafa. How about naming some of that standard.

    Even some of those rubbish managers you list I would have above Pardew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    You don't get manager of the year on a fluke.
    Leicester won the Prem recently but that was a one, but as you say not a fluke, off and they aren't ranked among the top teams in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    it's not difficult for me to back up.
    Let's start with holloway.
    Then mcclaren.
    Zola.
    Lawrie sanchez.
    Mark hughes.
    Paul jewel.
    Ian dowie.
    Peter reid.

    There's plenty more and plenty of managers that he's as good as, pound for pound.

    Let's put it in simple terms. He's not the worst ever manager by a long long way and there is absolutely no reason that i can think of for anyone to hate the man.
    However, anyone can do what they feel is best for them in hating him or whatever.
    I don't think he deserves it....especially from newcastle fans who not too far into the distant past were begging him not to take the england job.
    Aye, some terrible manager, eh?
    add to that hodgson at liverppol
    frank de boer
    john carver
    ian dowie
    juande ramos
    andre villa boes
    ossie ardiles
    george graham at spurs
    remie garde
    basset at forest was a joke
    sammy lee at bolton didnt do to well
    mick mc carthy at the unwashed
    boothroyd at watford
    mark mcghee

    i dont think pardew was or is the worst manager in the prem or any where near it
    only an idiot would make that statment
    probabaly the same idiots that said he got us into urope you knaw man

    and stood by him and blamed ash for his results (sound familiar ?? Fizzy players ))

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    at last the money goes where the mouth is.

    But are we not talking about classier managers where you bracket pardew and say you would prefer him to rafa. How about naming some of that standard.

    Even some of those rubbish managers you list i would have above pardew.
    talk about twisting
    you ask him to name managers worst than him
    he does so yet you then say in the pardew /rafa bracket

    isnt pardews record in the prem with the toon better than rafas??

    Theres one then

    and believe me there have been many many many manager worse than pardew in the prem

    even england managers

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    talk about twisting
    you ask him to name managers worst than him
    he does so yet you then say in the pardew /rafa bracket

    isnt pardews record in the prem with the toon better than rafas??

    Theres one then

    and believe me there have been many many many manager worse than pardew in the prem

    even england managers
    Remember Pardew had had some world class players to work with so compare the Cabayes, the BenArfas, Wijnaldum, Colo,Sissoko,Krul, Tiote, Cisse,Anita, etc.

    What do you think Rafa would achieve with those names.

    I'm not the one who is twisting. That is down to GhostWilf. he was putting Pardew on a pedestal and then putting up a list of the dregs instead of decent class managers who he claimed Pardew was amongst.

    Now twist that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    add to that hodgson at liverppol
    frank de boer
    john carver
    ian dowie
    juande ramos
    andre villa boes
    ossie ardiles
    george graham at spurs
    remie garde
    basset at forest was a joke
    sammy lee at bolton didnt do to well
    mick mc carthy at the unwashed
    boothroyd at watford
    mark mcghee

    i dont think pardew was or is the worst manager in the prem or any where near it
    only an idiot would make that statment
    probabaly the same idiots that said he got us into urope you knaw man

    and stood by him and blamed ash for his results (sound familiar ?? Fizzy players ))
    That hatred for Pardew is the biggest baffling thing to me with fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    Remember Pardew had had some world class players to work with so compare the Cabayes, the BenArfas, Wijnaldum, Colo,Sissoko,Krul, Tiote, Cisse,Anita, etc.

    What do you think Rafa would achieve with those names.

    I'm not the one who is twisting. That is down to GhostWilf. he was putting Pardew on a pedestal and then putting up a list of the dregs instead of decent class managers who he claimed Pardew was amongst.

    Now twist that.
    Just accept that I backed up what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    You don't get manager of the year on a fluke.
    Actually, that’s exactly how he got it... a whole bunch of teams under-performed and we had the least injuries in any Prem season we have ever had BY FAR... it was the definition of fluke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Just accept that I backed up what I said.
    You did not. You were classing Pardew as a class manager then you list a whole lot of has beens, of which Pardew would be in the middle.

    You have a lot in common with Pardew when you consider evasion of the truth.

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