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Thread: Derek McInnes

  1. #1971
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    I may be looking at things through rose-tinted spectacles a little, especially as work and geography mean I see the team so little, but I think that yesterday's showing showed that DM is as good a manager as BR. (maybe not a great complement!?) Tactically he did something we hadn't done before against the Dhims - as far as I'm aware - in that we meant man-to-man all over the park with only Scott M as spare man. We stopped them playing out from goalie's kicks and only let Benkovic or Boyata have any time on the ball. If he'd picked |May instead of Cosgrove this would have worked even better defensively as May would have closed down the entre-backs more effectively, so Ferguson would not have had to leave McGregor at times and Cosgrove couldn't do the closing down all the time. I guess he picked him as our best chance of scoring realistically was from set-Plays, and two of our best chances did come from them - Consi's offside effort in the first half and a McKenna flicked header in the second. BR didn't make any changes, really and when was the last time you saw Celtic's best players - Forrest, Sinclair, McGregor, Rogic so ineffective against us. Yes, I know we lost and I'm as gutted as the next Dons fan, but as far as managing went yesterday, DM did a good job.

    Now, I'm not going to say I'm totally delighted with DM or think he's up there with Fergie or anything, and his transfer dealings, this season especially have been poor, but as far as yesterday was concerned, he got the team playing to a pattern that very nearly worked - a bit of luck and it might have done. As far as the team believing they could win, I think you saw by their reaction at the end, and their in-your-face attitude during the game, that they did believe they could win... perhaps more than most of the fans! Frustrating is that we didn't show that desire and positivity against Motherwell last week (the only other match I've seen live this season) or in other matches too. That IS something that needs sorting.

    As far as the transfer dealings, I think he needs help here - either Stewarty Milne needs to loosen the purse strings a little or our scouting or due diligence needs a lot of work, as well as him picking better deals and trying to keep good players longer.
    Like you, I'm nae happy with being runner-up, and want to win trophies, and being of an age when I've seen us at both ends of the scale in terms of performance and outcomes, this is better than average over a 48 year supporting career.

    Yes, DM is not the Messiah, but he's far more than just a very naughty boy.

  2. #1972
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackjarvis View Post
    AC’s manager, very much like myself, goes out to win every f ucking game, we both hate losing.....our team yesterday did their utmost but fell short, anyway, I introduced a Gothenburg legend to our manager and my dad at half time, perhaps he was biased due to Greenock connections, however he did not share your opinion on our coach, what would he know though?

    SF

    If we’ve reached the stage where that’s an acceptable performance, then we’d all be as well chucking it. The players did put in a shift but it’s a cup final ffs, that’s the bare minimum required. Celtic cruised that final again. The current coach has to take the blame, that’s why he gets paid what he does. If he can’t go to a final without bottling it, he should make way for someone else

  3. #1973
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    "The players put in a shift"

    I would bloody think so.

    Let's face it, folk are happy we only lost 1-0 and are prepared to praise the manager for yet another defeat.

    Perhaps he did as well as he could with the material he had to work with.

    The fact that the material was so poor is down to him though.

    Appaling Summer transfer window and worse to come in January I think.
    It must have been a terrible disapointment to still have McKenna on the books come September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulldon View Post
    I may be looking at things through rose-tinted spectacles a little, especially as work and geography mean I see the team so little, but I think that yesterday's showing showed that DM is as good a manager as BR. (maybe not a great complement!?) Tactically he did something we hadn't done before against the Dhims - as far as I'm aware - in that we meant man-to-man all over the park with only Scott M as spare man. We stopped them playing out from goalie's kicks and only let Benkovic or Boyata have any time on the ball. If he'd picked |May instead of Cosgrove this would have worked even better defensively as May would have closed down the entre-backs more effectively, so Ferguson would not have had to leave McGregor at times and Cosgrove couldn't do the closing down all the time. I guess he picked him as our best chance of scoring realistically was from set-Plays, and two of our best chances did come from them - Consi's offside effort in the first half and a McKenna flicked header in the second. BR didn't make any changes, really and when was the last time you saw Celtic's best players - Forrest, Sinclair, McGregor, Rogic so ineffective against us. Yes, I know we lost and I'm as gutted as the next Dons fan, but as far as managing went yesterday, DM did a good job.

    Now, I'm not going to say I'm totally delighted with DM or think he's up there with Fergie or anything, and his transfer dealings, this season especially have been poor, but as far as yesterday was concerned, he got the team playing to a pattern that very nearly worked - a bit of luck and it might have done. As far as the team believing they could win, I think you saw by their reaction at the end, and their in-your-face attitude during the game, that they did believe they could win... perhaps more than most of the fans! Frustrating is that we didn't show that desire and positivity against Motherwell last week (the only other match I've seen live this season) or in other matches too. That IS something that needs sorting.

    As far as the transfer dealings, I think he needs help here - either Stewarty Milne needs to loosen the purse strings a little or our scouting or due diligence needs a lot of work, as well as him picking better deals and trying to keep good players longer.
    Like you, I'm nae happy with being runner-up, and want to win trophies, and being of an age when I've seen us at both ends of the scale in terms of performance and outcomes, this is better than average over a 48 year supporting career.

    Yes, DM is not the Messiah, but he's far more than just a very naughty boy.
    ^^^^^^^
    Well said, perhaps a tad too objective for some on here though.

    In life, always be careful what you wish for.

    SF

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    I wish we wouldnt sh1te it in finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    "The players put in a shift"

    I would bloody think so.

    Let's face it, folk are happy we only lost 1-0 and are prepared to praise the manager for yet another defeat.

    Perhaps he did as well as he could with the material he had to work with.

    The fact that the material was so poor is down to him though.

    Appaling Summer transfer window and worse to come in January I think.
    It must have been a terrible disapointment to still have McKenna on the books come September.
    Well said. A tad too objective and realistic for some on here©️

  7. #1977
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulldon View Post
    I may be looking at things through rose-tinted spectacles a little, especially as work and geography mean I see the team so little, but I think that yesterday's showing showed that DM is as good a manager as BR. (maybe not a great complement!?) Tactically he did something we hadn't done before against the Dhims - as far as I'm aware - in that we meant man-to-man all over the park with only Scott M as spare man. We stopped them playing out from goalie's kicks and only let Benkovic or Boyata have any time on the ball. If he'd picked |May instead of Cosgrove this would have worked even better defensively as May would have closed down the entre-backs more effectively, so Ferguson would not have had to leave McGregor at times and Cosgrove couldn't do the closing down all the time. I guess he picked him as our best chance of scoring realistically was from set-Plays, and two of our best chances did come from them - Consi's offside effort in the first half and a McKenna flicked header in the second. BR didn't make any changes, really and when was the last time you saw Celtic's best players - Forrest, Sinclair, McGregor, Rogic so ineffective against us. Yes, I know we lost and I'm as gutted as the next Dons fan, but as far as managing went yesterday, DM did a good job.

    Now, I'm not going to say I'm totally delighted with DM or think he's up there with Fergie or anything, and his transfer dealings, this season especially have been poor, but as far as yesterday was concerned, he got the team playing to a pattern that very nearly worked - a bit of luck and it might have done. As far as the team believing they could win, I think you saw by their reaction at the end, and their in-your-face attitude during the game, that they did believe they could win... perhaps more than most of the fans! Frustrating is that we didn't show that desire and positivity against Motherwell last week (the only other match I've seen live this season) or in other matches too. That IS something that needs sorting.

    As far as the transfer dealings, I think he needs help here - either Stewarty Milne needs to loosen the purse strings a little or our scouting or due diligence needs a lot of work, as well as him picking better deals and trying to keep good players longer.
    Like you, I'm nae happy with being runner-up, and want to win trophies, and being of an age when I've seen us at both ends of the scale in terms of performance and outcomes, this is better than average over a 48 year supporting career.

    Yes, DM is not the Messiah, but he's far more than just a very naughty boy.
    I think McInnes got his tactics and team formation spot on yesterday. The only mistake was playing Cosgrove. I thought we matched Celtic very well and restricted them to a handful of chances. Other than their goal, their best chance came from a shocking, but not surprising, decision from a shocking referee.

    I'm probably going to get slated for this by the usual suspects but I think the defeat yesterday was due to bad luck more than anything else. Lewis' great save went unluckily went straight back to Christie. If it had gone anywhere else, they wouldn't have scored. Equally Simunovic's backpass? Could easily have gone in instead of hitting the bar.

    He needs to give Anderson and McLennan a good run in the team to see what they can do.

  8. #1978
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    Quote Originally Posted by redstarfk View Post
    I daresay your games in the juniors were played on a fairly level playing field. .I'm meaning the finances of the teams involved.

    .

    When I was playing Culter, Formartinks, Sunnybank, Banks o Dee, Longside (of the top of my head) had masses of money. We had to rely on a decent selling of sweepers for that week to make ends meet. Massive difference in the Superleague. Some players that could easily play HFL or above were playing juniors because of the money

  9. #1979
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    Also players should be putting in a shift whether playing Dalbeattie Star or Celtic. Its what they are paid to do

    Too many just accept defeat and lick McInnes' boots. Even if we get battered on Wednesday the same will happen. Nae doubt there will be some singing that f@cking song after that too

  10. #1980
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackjarvis View Post
    Ok sir Jimmy,
    I don't get that by the way

    You lambast the people who mentioned him earlier then call someone who did not get involved with it at any point by the horrible ****ers name. Bizarre

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