O/T For those who claim that the BBC is left wing.

[ragingpup]

The left-wing fascist types like Antifa mock free-speech and call it "freeze peach", they want what they call "fascists" (which of course is actually them) to be silenced with violence.

If people like them were in power they would silence them by jailing them or executing them, they are actually the same people as the ones running North Korea.

The obsession with Antifa is a huge recurring feature on the far right web sites, all spun with exactly the same rhetoric on leftard fascists making us all like North Korea. This could be copy pasted from such sites.

Just sayin'

[ragingpup]

So let me get this right this free speech thing. So am I right in saying that suppressed groups have a right to complain about their lot. And I and others have a right to defend these minority groups? That would include a lot of socialists I would think. Have the BBC got a right then to spout left wing views which in your opinion they have. So what are you moaning about everyone is having their say as you are saying they should.

I think what Fire is bemoaning, at heart, is his frustration that he can't scream out "GET OUT OF MY ****ING COUNTRY YOU COLOURED, SCROUNGING, INFERIOR, SCARY, FUNNY LOOKING FOREIGN *******S!!!".

Let's boil it down. That's what free speech means to him.

[Shark27]

Can you link me to the Morning Star article that argued how great North Korea is relative to other countries and/or their comparative happiness ratings?

Would you be able to link me to the media bias fact check about BBC being centre right for general news?

From what I read it looked the opposite!

[ragingpup]

Would you be able to link me to the media bias fact check about BBC being centre right for general news?

From what I read it looked the opposite!

Errm, in the MBFC article I linked to!

Overall it states that "Overall, we rate the BBC Left-Center biased based on story selection that slightly favors the left" (which is why I rated it 'centre left in my original post of different sites, but the same analysis then goes onto quote New Statesman research that concluded that the BBC "in certain areas they lean right, such as business, immigration, and religion. Examples of right bias, includes the BBC being accused of doctoring the image of Jeremy Corbyn, who serves as Leader of the Labour Party (Corbyn identifies as a democratic socialist) wearing a Russian style cap in front of a Moscow skyline to make him look more Russian".

It's the MBFC summarising that different studies show that whilst the BBC has a centre left bias overall, some departments are more centre right. They actually don't mention the news department directly in there but the example they give is from the News/Politics department at the BBC

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

[rolymiller]

I think what Fire is bemoaning, at heart, is his frustration that he can't scream out "GET OUT OF MY ****ING COUNTRY YOU COLOURED, SCROUNGING, INFERIOR, SCARY, FUNNY LOOKING FOREIGN *******S!!!".

Let's boil it down. That's what free speech means to him.

Never! I am surprised

[KerrAvon]

That they cite the Corbyn photo doctoring allegation as evidence of right bias has to raise doubts about the reliabilty of raging's favoured media bias site, given that it didn't happen:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...lose-to-russia

[Shark27]

Errm, in the MBFC article I linked to!

Overall it states that "Overall, we rate the BBC Left-Center biased based on story selection that slightly favors the left" (which is why I rated it 'centre left in my original post of different sites, but the same analysis then goes onto quote New Statesman research that concluded that the BBC "in certain areas they lean right, such as business, immigration, and religion. Examples of right bias, includes the BBC being accused of doctoring the image of Jeremy Corbyn, who serves as Leader of the Labour Party (Corbyn identifies as a democratic socialist) wearing a Russian style cap in front of a Moscow skyline to make him look more Russian".

It's the MBFC summarising that different studies show that whilst the BBC has a centre left bias overall, some departments are more centre right. They actually don't mention the news department directly in there but the example they give is from the News/Politics department at the BBC

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

Eeerrrrmmm, you haven't quoted the bit about general news. General news is a wide range of subjects so I can see why you would want people to think they lean to the right for General subjects. But if you look at your link it says in general they are more centre left.

[WanChaiMiller]

It's called confirmation bias.

Hilarious. You have all the in terms for these things. What the f*** is confirmation bias.

Does it effect me but not you or carling?

[ragingpup]

That they cite the Corbyn photo doctoring allegation as evidence of right bias has to raise doubts about the reliabilty of raging's favoured media bias site, given that it didn't happen:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...lose-to-russia

It did happen Kerr. The fact check you linked to simply gives perspective. They don't address the red coloring that made it look very soviet.

But are you also arguing then about the same mbfc conclusions that favour the BBC as centre left overall, with the examples they give? They would also be disputed by left wingers. Or are you only addressing the one bit of leveling perspective that indicates that there is some right wing bias also in the BBC? (of course you are)

Still waiting for your answers on Corbyn's 40 appearences on Iraq TV for 20 billion pounds by the way? You suddenly went very quiet you gullible old fool!) :-)

[KerrAvon]

It did happen Kerr. The fact check you linked to simply gives perspective. They don't address the red coloring that made it look very soviet.

But are you also arguing then about the same mbfc conclusions that favour the BBC as centre left overall, with the examples they give? They would also be disputed by left wingers. Or are you only addressing the one bit of leveling perspective that indicates that there is some right wing bias also in the BBC? (of course you are)

Still waiting for your answers on Corbyn's 40 appearences on Iraq TV for 20 billion pounds by the way? You suddenly went very quiet you gullible old fool!) :-)

I stopped taking you seriously when you cited skawkbox and reduced the argument to exactly how much Corbyn was paid by Iran as though that actually mattered, raging (trying to joke it off with the 20 billion comment doesn't help you either). It was reminiscent of you citing Russia Today to confirm your assertion that the BBC is right wing.

I've always argued that the BBC sits largely in the centre That's why it manages to upset zealots on both the Left and Right.

P.s. Are you arguing that people would see that Corbyn was coloured red and think that means he is Left wing? Erm, I think people would notice and he is Left wing.