O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[WanChaiMiller]

EU Army speech from Jan 2019.



It's coming there is no doubt about it.

Explain the problem with the concept of an EU Army?

[WanChaiMiller]

The EU is a very dangerous power hungry organisation. They manipulate, back stab and do anything that is needed to get what they want

Dangerous! In what way?

[great_fire]

It's coming there is no doubt about it.

Greens and Liberals wanted to bomb Syria and fight Russia.

None of these parties are what they say on the tin.

Same here; Labour don't represent labour but the metropolitan middle classes, Muslims and immigrants.

The Conservatives are "progressives".

The Liberal Democrats are neither of those things.

What a joke.

[KerrAvon]

After having 2 referendums but more to the point after the first referendum the EU told all other parties to continue with the preparations regardless of the Irish vote which meant that however Ireland voted it was not going to stop them getting this treaty through even though the vote required all members to agree. The EU never lose anything they want mate and thats the point even if they have to force 2nd referendums. Does that remind you of anywhere?

The EU is a very dangerous power hungry organisation. They manipulate, back stab and do anything that is needed to get what they want and I am telling you now that the EU will have it's way over an EU army within the next 5 years and any veto rights on anything at all will be withdrawn within 3 years.

The EU didn't force two referendums. The Irish Constitution required a referendum for the Treaty to be ratified. The Irish people narrowly said no, the EU made some concessions and the Irish people then said yes by a handsome margin.

What happened was an exercise in democracy and of the Irish people exercising their national sovereignty.

The right of any national government to veto an EU army can only be removed by a treaty change, which would mean going back to the member states and a further referendum in Ireland. Given one of the things the Irish didn't like about Lisbon was a perceived risk to their historical neutrality, it's hard to see them agreeing, let alone the UK.

[EasyAndEarly]

Great Britain should be flying with an adequate Health Service - Social Services - Retirement for all at 60 and constantly improving infrastructure.

The reason we are not is because money (our money) dissappears.

The EU wants our money and gives a little back and call it grants. We know how to spend our money thanks.

They use our money to nurture and support business within the EU to the detriment of the UK.

The recent "election" of the usual suspects all with prior indictments says it all.

Keep it simple - we can't trust the Germans / French.

[Timbertop]

Spot on E&E. Let's hope Boris can finally get it done but with the Labour Party's sole intent to engineer another election (and sod the voters) I am still fearful.

[EasyAndEarly]

This is even more massive than Sheffield Wednesday think they are.....so scary. There are some fundamental principles at stake for our country and the leavers feel that. I liken the EU to the BORG - Resistance is futile. Let's hope the resistance works despite a remain parliament.

[EasyAndEarly]

PS: I can't but think about what Germany did only 74 - 80 years ago ! Newsreels show a lot of Nazi supporters and a regime that stole all the good and wealth of Europe whilst ethnically cleansing millions. Well that POWER was never aradicated fully. Those in power then are trying to conquer Europe without a shot being fired....and again it's Great Britain that's fighting back. Sadly some brits don"t see that danger. Call it dramatic but those newsreels were only decades past and the perpetrators still harbour their ambition - I'd call it naive to think any less. We need NOT to become a poor suburb of a German lead non elected EU.

[BigLadonOS]

Explain the problem with the concept of an EU Army?

1, We might have to send British troops in to a war that GB want no part of.
2, Who would this army take orders from?
3, How would the army work together with so many language barriers?

I can think of more but those 3 alone should stop even the thought of one but it wont because the EU want one.

[BigLadonOS]

Dangerous! In what way?

Dangerous in the way it gets things done, if countries vote against something the EU want to happen it will make new rules and regulations to force whatever they want to happen and it will happen. The EU have a history of doing this.