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Thread: O/T:- Iran admits downing plane

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSANHO View Post
    Perhaps so, but in this instance it wouldn't have happened if the US hadn't illegally attacked Iran.
    I should have added that as well as the question of right versus wrong and good versus evil being futile within the environment of international conflict and politics, the question of 'legal' versus 'illegal' is also futile. International law itself is so open to interpretation as to be almost irrelevant.

    International relations between countries is like a psychopathic dance where moral issues are incidental. It's a Machiavellian game of survival and advancement ... which is probably why a personality like Vladimir Putin seems to play it particularly well.
    Last edited by jackal2; 11-01-2020 at 02:11 PM.

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    Iran is an Islamic republic, theocracy and not a democracy. I see no one on here defending it and there is now no doubt that is is THE guilt party.
    However, that doesn't free Trump from blame. His assassination in a foreign land was an illegal act of war calculated to escalate violence in the area and almost certain to trigger the deaths of innocent civilians.
    As I said on another fred, suppose Iran had arranged for a drone attack on a motorcade in say Paris that was carrying Mike Pompeo. Do you think the USA would have kept their guns dry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    Iran is an Islamic republic, theocracy and not a democracy. I see no one on here defending it and there is now no doubt that is is THE guilt party.
    However, that doesn't free Trump from blame. His assassination in a foreign land was an illegal act of war calculated to escalate violence in the area and almost certain to trigger the deaths of innocent civilians.
    As I said on another fred, suppose Iran had arranged for a drone attack on a motorcade in say Paris that was carrying Mike Pompeo. Do you think the USA would have kept their guns dry?
    Piss off sid, I'm just reliving Doyle's wonder goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    Iran is an Islamic republic, theocracy and not a democracy. I see no one on here defending it and there is now no doubt that is is THE guilt party.
    However, that doesn't free Trump from blame. His assassination in a foreign land was an illegal act of war calculated to escalate violence in the area and almost certain to trigger the deaths of innocent civilians.
    As I said on another fred, suppose Iran had arranged for a drone attack on a motorcade in say Paris that was carrying Mike Pompeo. Do you think the USA would have kept their guns dry?
    Well, it seems Trump is happy to provide shelter for the wife of an American diplomat suspected of causing death by dangerous driving, so he clearly has morals that belong in the gutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Well, it seems Trump is happy to provide shelter for the wife of an American diplomat suspected of causing death by dangerous driving, so he clearly has morals that belong in the gutter.

    We have witnessed one of the best goals we have ever scored at Meadow Lane and still the usual suspects are spouting their anti American garbage tonight....what a sad lot of morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePass View Post
    ....what a sad lot of morons.
    Well there was no need to join in

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    It was very unfortunate that it was a Ukrainian jet that was shot down. Accidentally. By an ally of Russia.

    Still, at least the Iranians have had the good grace to fess up.(eventually). Putin’s mob are still trying to deny they shot down the Malaysian jet. Over Ukraine.
    176 poeple lost their lives, to call it " unfortunate" . Poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    Well there was no need to join in

    Don’t bully meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePass View Post
    We have witnessed one of the best goals we have ever scored at Meadow Lane and still the usual suspects are spouting their anti American garbage tonight....what a sad lot of morons.
    What you have to realise is that we're not all as pigsh!t thick as you though, some of us can multitask. I've said what I thought of the goal on the relevant football thread, but never thought of bringing it up on a thread about a plane being shot down.

    You should google 'sense of perspective', and see if you can buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    What you have to realise is that we're not all as pigsh!t thick as you though, some of us can multitask. I've said what I thought of the goal on the relevant football thread, but never thought of bringing it up on a thread about a plane being shot down.

    You should google 'sense of perspective', and see if you can buy one.
    What about fatlads point scoring post?

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