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    I’m not sure that’s entirely rational (although nor am I saying we should bury our heads in the sand).

    Like it or not life has an economic value. We don’t set the speed limit to 10mph on all roads just because it would save lives. As a society we try to strike a balance.

    The point about this situation is we don’t know what’s the right balance as we have highly imperfect information. So we’re taking a safety first approach. We’ll not know till afterwards (if ever) whether that was the right thing to do. So we can argue about that till the cows come home.

    But it would be a very brave government that just said carry on as normal and didn’t try to limit this. Hard to argue with the approach that’s being taken in broad terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Julio View Post
    I’m not sure that’s entirely rational (although nor am I saying we should bury our heads in the sand).

    Like it or not life has an economic value. We don’t set the speed limit to 10mph on all roads just because it would save lives. As a society we try to strike a balance.

    The point about this situation is we don’t know what’s the right balance as we have highly imperfect information. So we’re taking a safety first approach. We’ll not know till afterwards (if ever) whether that was the right thing to do. So we can argue about that till the cows come home.

    But it would be a very brave government that just said carry on as normal and didn’t try to limit this. Hard to argue with the approach that’s being taken in broad terms.
    It was entirely irrational, that was the stark point I was making.
    When we hear of 21 year old youths with no underlying medical issues dying, or 26 year old doctors that were treating cases in India dying, then surely the rational thing to do is to try and limit it as much as we can

    I accept, we don't know the actual numbers, because we have not effectively been able to measure all suspect cases, however when you see that in the UK and in the world, the active cases are continuing to grow, then we MUST do something about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Julio View Post
    I’m not sure that’s entirely rational (although nor am I saying we should bury our heads in the sand).

    Like it or not life has an economic value. We don’t set the speed limit to 10mph on all roads just because it would save lives. As a society we try to strike a balance.

    The point about this situation is we don’t know what’s the right balance as we have highly imperfect information. So we’re taking a safety first approach. We’ll not know till afterwards (if ever) whether that was the right thing to do. So we can argue about that till the cows come home.

    But it would be a very brave government that just said carry on as normal and didn’t try to limit this. Hard to argue with the approach that’s being taken in broad terms.
    I agree with what you are saying although I might argue we are taking a science led approach rather than a safety first approach. I am probably splitting hairs but the science based approach is in my mind akin to a "just in time" approach, which for sure is being cautious but many might argue if we were truly safety first then we would have moved to the draconian stages much quicker than we have done. However as you say it is tough to be overly critical on the broad thrust of the approach we are taking based on what we know.

    However I fear (for my American friends and colleagues) that we are about to see what the completely different approach looks like. Trump has been threatening to send people back to work/school by Easter (even though it is the State Governers rather than him that has that power) and after today's horrendous US unemployment figures he will no doubt ratchet up the rhetoric to try to bully people into going back to normal given his re-election chances are so tied to the economy. We will see whether he and the right wing FOX/radio stations or the health/science advisors win the day as that would almost certainly just be carnage across the pond

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo1983 View Post
    I think if you need the government to pay for you then you should be shot. Along with those "working from home".

    Only fair.
    So who should we put up against the wall first?

    ➡️ NHS staff
    ➡️ Education staff
    ➡️ Police staff
    ➡️ Armed forces staff
    ➡️ HMRC staff (lets face it they recently redeemed themselves&#128514
    ➡️ Fire Brigade staff
    ➡️ Passport office staff
    ➡️ Transport staff
    ➡️ Social care staff
    Etc, etc, etc, etc.

    All of which we need and all of which are paid for by various Government taxes (your and my money). Hopefully I missed the sarcasm smiley in your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofrgmsdad View Post
    So who should we put up against the wall first?

    ➡️ NHS staff
    ➡️ Education staff
    ➡️ Police staff
    ➡️ Armed forces staff
    ➡️ HMRC staff (lets face it they recently redeemed themselves��)
    ➡️ Fire Brigade staff
    ➡️ Passport office staff
    ➡️ Transport staff
    ➡️ Social care staff
    Etc, etc, etc, etc.

    All of which we need and all of which are paid for by various Government taxes (your and my money). Hopefully I missed the sarcasm smiley in your post.
    I'd keep them since I'm on that list, folk that work in finefare (except Mondo), select AFC players past and present and shoot everyone else.

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    Another doctor who thinks it's being overhyped

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ar-as-we-think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter View Post
    Another doctor who thinks it's being overhyped

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ar-as-we-think
    Another doctor?

    What about all the doctor's that agree it's a big problem?

    You are at it as usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter View Post
    Another doctor who thinks it's being overhyped

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ar-as-we-think

    That well renowned doctor from the Cayman Islands I reckon you could get a cushie job as Trumps advisor

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    So Cormack has stated our insurers are varying the terms of our policy renewal at end April to remove cover for Pandemics.

    We've had a policy that covers us, & now we wont.

    Hardly surprising an insurance company acting like a cuunt - but why doesnt DC name and shame the @rseholes?

    Some bad press for cuunts like that who are basically profiteering on the back of this virus would be no bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Moog View Post
    So Cormack has stated our insurers are varying the terms of our policy renewal at end April to remove cover for Pandemics.

    We've had a policy that covers us, & now we wont.

    Hardly surprising an insurance company acting like a cuunt - but why doesnt DC name and shame the @rseholes?

    Some bad press for cuunts like that who are basically profiteering on the back of this virus would be no bad thing.
    They’re changing it AT renewal, not mid-term.
    What’s wrong with that?
    They’re entitled to.
    That’s like us changing a players contract at renewal.

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