OT. Schools...normality and Coronavirus.

[Geoff Parkstone]

The odds of dying from it are still lower than being killed by lightening or a meteorite Have those two things killed 35,000 in the UK these last 10 weeks . If so nobody has told the press

I think those odds were based on 2018 figures, Mista!

[mistaram]

I think those odds were based on 2018 figures, Mista!

Oh not like Tricky to miss quote 😂

[Ram59]

Ah, they want long weekends eh? Maybe they need extra time off to go to the shops or the hairdressers to watch real people put some effort in for the country's future......

I wouldn't dare to speculate, GP. Just the facts.

[Trickytreesreds]

The odds of dying from it are still lower than being killed by lightening or a meteorite Have those two things killed 35,000 in the UK these last 10 weeks . If so nobody has told the press

WOAH, hang on a minute.
How many of those 30 000 were actually killed by Corona?
Not as many as that.
As I said earlier, an old work friend of mine lost her mum to it? She was 92 FFS. Corona/cold/cough/the clap? Anything could have killed her. The virus has been catagorised as a new Black Death. It isn't nothing like.

This is a letter from a guy in Dorset. I'll leave his name out.

My mother dies last week in a carehome at the age of 98. When my brother registered her death, as expected it was registered as frailty due to old age. He was later surprised to see that the doctor certifying her death had added "presumed Covid 19", an inclusion which later shocked the homes manager.

The day before my mother died, my briother was allowed to sit with her for an hour. His temp was checked before being admitted, but there was no form of isolation.
If doctors are attributing all deaths in care homes to Covid 19, it makes a nonsense of all statistics and does great reputational damage to both individual care homes and the care industry as a whole.

I gather the point being, even if Covid was the last straw. Anything could have done away with his mother.
So, are we all going to hide away forever and if so, who is paying for it?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Well Tricky has a point:

In 2016 there was the first ever reported death anywhere in the world (in India) due to a meteorite strike.

Between 1987 and 2016 there were 58 fatalities due to being struck by lightning in the UK alone, globally there were an average of over 4,000 pa in 2016

On the other hand in the full period from 1900 to 2016 there were no reported global deaths from Covid 19

So clearly, during a thunder storm, your best place of refuge is on a Covid 19 ICU wearing no PPE.

[MadAmster]

WOAH, hang on a minute.
How many of those 30 000 were actually killed by Corona?
Not as many as that.
As I said earlier, an old work friend of mine lost her mum to it? She was 92 FFS. Corona/cold/cough/the clap? Anything could have killed her. The virus has been catagorised as a new Black Death. It isn't nothing like.

This is a letter from a guy in Dorset. I'll leave his name out.

My mother dies last week in a carehome at the age of 98. When my brother registered her death, as expected it was registered as frailty due to old age. He was later surprised to see that the doctor certifying her death had added "presumed Covid 19", an inclusion which later shocked the homes manager.

The day before my mother died, my briother was allowed to sit with her for an hour. His temp was checked before being admitted, but there was no form of isolation.
If doctors are attributing all deaths in care homes to Covid 19, it makes a nonsense of all statistics and does great reputational damage to both individual care homes and the care industry as a whole.

I gather the point being, even if Covid was the last straw. Anything could have done away with his mother.
So, are we all going to hide away forever and if so, who is paying for it?

I've posted this before but I'll post it again, Tricky.

In 2002 I had 2 stents put in my 100% blocked left coronary artery. I see the cardio once a year and my local health centre also once a year, 6 months apart from the cardio. My stats come back perfect.

I have been on meds for high blood pressure since then and measure my BP regularly. 117 over 74 yesterday afternoon. 123 over 80 this morning. No problems there.

Idem ditto on meds for cholestorol. For years my blood tests have shown healthy cholestorol levels.

A few years back I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnoea. 28 breathing stops per hour, average length 23 seconds. Longest was 52 seconds. They only measure stops in excess of 10 seconds. In total I was not breathing for between 15 and 20 minutes of every hour I slept. Since then I have been on a CPAP every night and I now average 1.5 stops per hour and the machine spots it and immediately forces air into my lungs. All is well.

I also have the problem that I am 6 inches too short for my weight. Another issue.

However, there is good news. As I said my stats are all good. On top of that I ref 2 or 3 times a month and keep up with play. Most of the players are in their mid 20s. 4 weeks ago I got my racing bike out and cycle 3 or 4 times a week. Started with a 22Km ride, slowly going further and this weekend (or maybe even tomorrow) I will de doing a 50K ride at an average of 20mph. I am very fit despite all the above.

The above also puts me firmly in the "at risk" group. Current estimates is that I should reach the 82 years my pension is based on quite easily and carry on further. Now, if I were to catch CV-19 tomorrow and die a week later, it would be CV-19 that killed me, not the underlying conditions. If I hadn't caught CV-19, then I wouldn't have got sick and died. The underlying conditions might have speeded things up but they wouldn't be the cause of my dying, it would have been CV-19. That is the point.

[Ram59]

WOAH, hang on a minute.
How many of those 30 000 were actually killed by Corona?
Not as many as that.
As I said earlier, an old work friend of mine lost her mum to it? She was 92 FFS. Corona/cold/cough/the clap? Anything could have killed her. The virus has been catagorised as a new Black Death. It isn't nothing like.

This is a letter from a guy in Dorset. I'll leave his name out.

My mother dies last week in a carehome at the age of 98. When my brother registered her death, as expected it was registered as frailty due to old age. He was later surprised to see that the doctor certifying her death had added "presumed Covid 19", an inclusion which later shocked the homes manager.

The day before my mother died, my briother was allowed to sit with her for an hour. His temp was checked before being admitted, but there was no form of isolation.
If doctors are attributing all deaths in care homes to Covid 19, it makes a nonsense of all statistics and does great reputational damage to both individual care homes and the care industry as a whole.

I gather the point being, even if Covid was the last straw. Anything could have done away with his mother.
So, are we all going to hide away forever and if so, who is paying for it?

Give up tricky, I'm afraid your wrong. Even if you only count the 20 or 30 each day who die without any other complications, this far exceeds lightning strikes.

[mistaram]

WOAH, hang on a minute.
How many of those 30 000 were actually killed by Corona?
Not as many as that.
As I said earlier, an old work friend of mine lost her mum to it? She was 92 FFS. Corona/cold/cough/the clap? Anything could have killed her. The virus has been catagorised as a new Black Death. It isn't nothing like.

This is a letter from a guy in Dorset. I'll leave his name out.

My mother dies last week in a carehome at the age of 98. When my brother registered her death, as expected it was registered as frailty due to old age. He was later surprised to see that the doctor certifying her death had added "presumed Covid 19", an inclusion which later shocked the homes manager.

The day before my mother died, my briother was allowed to sit with her for an hour. His temp was checked before being admitted, but there was no form of isolation.
If doctors are attributing all deaths in care homes to Covid 19, it makes a nonsense of all statistics and does great reputational damage to both individual care homes and the care industry as a whole.

I gather the point being, even if Covid was the last straw. Anything could have done away with his mother.
So, are we all going to hide away forever and if so, who is paying for it?

Tricky you do turn things around to suit your agenda So why do all these ministers ,the ONS the medics and scientists keep coming on our screens and telling us how many have sadly died Your basing your facts that a few doctors have put death down to Covid when they were not sure Well I would bet you there are more doctors who have not put death do to Covid because they not sure By the way people are not hiding away forever only 25% of wage earners are in furlough. I know it's not you but some on here inferring people should get back to work ,have to agree to a point But the law clearly states if an employee thinks it's unsafe the don't have to Also you can't stop any wage or furlough because that would be classed unfair treatment, Incidently that will still be the law after Brexit no matter what Johnson says

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky you do turn things around to suit your agenda So why do all these ministers ,the ONS the medics and scientists keep coming on our screens and telling us how many have sadly died Your basing your facts that a few doctors have put death down to pressures Covid. Well I would bet you there are an awful lot more doctors who have not put that Covid was the cause of death because they were not sure .

Ok mate, Covid is the black death, we're all doomed. Stay home and bring out yer dead.

[mistaram]

Ok mate, Covid is the black death, we're all doomed. Stay home and bring out yer dead.

Christ that was intelligent by your standards