This insanity is endless...

[sinkov]

Sounds like nitpicking to me Sinkov, we’re going round in circles boring everyone else. Time to give up, we’ll never agree on this. I acknowledge your perspective. End of!

I thought we had agreed OC, I pointed out that the figure you quoted for deaths on that day was not correct, and you agreed, end of for me days ago.

[1959_60]

You say the figures are rising rapidly 59, the GOV.UK figures show they are not.

The reason I have only quoted up to Nov 1st is because the figures for 'Deaths By Date of Death' take a few days to be collated, and so there is a time lag before they can be considered accurate, OC has already pointed this out, I thought you would have been aware of it as well. Worry not, there is no hiding place, I will revisit the figures again, I check them every day, and if there is a rapid increase it will become evident, at the moment the figures don't show it. Watch this space mon ami.

According to the Gov.uk figures deaths in the last seven days (up to November 6th) were 2246 - up 588 in a week. That is a 35.5% rise in a week.
For me that is a rapid rise.

These figures are from the Gov.uk website, which you quoted from using last weeks data.

Check the link below - I didn't invent the figures. If you dispute them then don't blame me - go on the Gov.uk-Mad website and put them right

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[oldcolner]

According to the Gov.uk figures deaths in the last seven days (up to November 6th) were 2246 - up 588 in a week. That is a 35.5% rise in a week.
For me that is a rapid rise.

These figures are from the Gov.uk website, which you quoted from using last weeks data.

Check the link below - I didn't invent the figures. If you dispute them then don't blame me - go on the Gov.uk-Mad website and put them right

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

The mans not for turning 59 but we know we’re right!

[1959_60]

The mans not for turning 59 but we know we’re right!

Absolutely OC!

I can't remember if it was Trump or Sinkov who started the craze of saying "Fake News!" and thinking that this automatically won the argument.

Mind you, it worked for Trump (until this week!)

[oldcolner]

Absolutely OC!

I can't remember if it was Trump or Sinkov who started the craze of saying "Fake News!" and thinking that this automatically won the argument.

Mind you, it worked for Trump (until this week!)

He’s still not convinced it’s not working 59!

[sinkov]

The mans not for turning 59 but we know we’re right!

You know the old saying OC, when the facts change, I change my mind. I'll be replying to 59 soon on why I have yet to change my mind.

[sinkov]

Absolutely OC!

I can't remember if it was Trump or Sinkov who started the craze of saying "Fake News!" and thinking that this automatically won the argument.

Mind you, it worked for Trump (until this week!)

If you two would just stop posting FAKE NEWS, I wouldn't have to keep pointing it out. Give me a break will you, I have the gees gees to sort out, football to watch, a back bedroom to paint, just stick to the facts, I do have better things to do with my time than keep putting you two back on the straight and narrow.

[oldcolner]

If you two would just stop posting FAKE NEWS, I wouldn't have to keep pointing it out. Give me a break will you, I have the gees gees to sort out, football to watch, a back bedroom to paint, just stick to the facts, I do have better things to do with my time than keep putting you two back on the straight and narrow.

You a stable lad, was thinking it was a bit unstable
Come on Sinkov you’ve really nowt to do given you quick responses.
These are FACT news not Fake. 59 is on side, you’re well off.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You a stable lad, was thinking it was a bit unstable
Come on Sinkov you’ve really nowt to do given you quick responses.
These are FACT news not Fake. 59 is on side, you’re well off.

"Where are the bodies?"

[sinkov]

According to the Gov.uk figures deaths in the last seven days (up to November 6th) were 2246 - up 588 in a week. That is a 35.5% rise in a week.
For me that is a rapid rise.

These figures are from the Gov.uk website, which you quoted from using last weeks data.

Check the link below - I didn't invent the figures. If you dispute them then don't blame me - go on the Gov.uk-Mad website and put them right

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Thanks for the link 59, I don't really need it, I have a shortcut to it on my desktop. I can't find any correlation for your figures, could you be more specific and show exactly where you got them from. Thank you.

This what I have found, (as recommended by OC, I wait 3 days before using the stats, data is still coming in over a period of days, and it takes 3/4 days for the figures to be collated and give an accurate picture, which is, I'm sure, what we both want isn't it....accuracy, not fake news.)

Deaths by Date of Death, Oct 27th to November 4th.

27th 262
28th 271
29th 294
30th 312
31st 282
1st 317
2nd 297
3rd 297
4th 274

That last figure is fairly recent and looks suspiciously low to me, I wouldn't be surprised if it was revised upwards, which is why I try not to use the most recent figures and wait a bit longer. You get a more accurate overall picture that way. Nevertheless the figures, while showing the expected and inevitable autumn increase, are NOT increasing rapidly. To be honest 59, those figures surprise me, I was expecting them to be increasing more rapidly. Maybe Boris's Tier System was working more effectively than SAGE realised, it wouldn't be the first time they've got something wrong.

Incidentally, if you want to know just what a rapid increase looks like, check back to March. The number of deaths went through the 300 barrier on the 25th, the daily total of deaths from then on went, 359, 399, 436, 507, 585. From 302 to 585 in five days.

This autumn the deaths first went over 300 on October 30th, 312 to be exact, followed by 282, 317, 297, 297, 274. From 312 to 274 in five days. You may consider this a rapid increase 59, I couldn't possibly comment.