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    Oles working

    MPs primed to vote for a potential Brexit trade deal next week

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eal-next-week/

    Mrs VdL says
    Progress had been made on subsidy law towards an agreement that would allow Brussels to take unilateral actions such as tariffs to redress unfair competition from the UK, she said.

    "And of course difficulties still remain on the question of how to really future proof fair competition. But I'm also glad to report that issues linked to governance by now are largely being resolved," she said.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-leyen-claims/
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    Hopefully good news https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...it-trade-deal/



    Boris Johnson is poised to announce a Brexit deal that will keep trade with the EU free of tariffs and quotas in what he will claim as a significant coup for the UK.

    Confirmation of a deal was expected late on Wednesday night or early on Thursday after 24 hours of intensive one-to-one telephone negotiations between Mr Johnson and Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president.

    The Telegraph understands that the remaining hurdles have almost entirely been cleared, with the sides haggling on Wednesday night over final details concerning fish and electric cars.

    Arrangements had been put in place for an official televised announcement at 7.30pm on Wednesday but, as the evening wore on, it became clear that neither side was quite ready to put their signature to a deal.

    However, the race to claim victory had already begun, with one French official claiming Britain had made "huge concessions" in the past 48 hours, "mostly on fish.

    Downing Street sources said the deal, if agreed, would be "the first of its kind" as Britain would be the first non-EU country to be allowed such free access to the Single Market.

    Mr Johnson agreed that the EU would only repatriate 25 per cent of the value of fish caught in its waters during a five and a half-year transition period, sources in Brussels said. The UK had originally demanded a three-year period with 80 per cent of the value, while the EU wanted a 10-year period with just 15-18 per cent. However, the EU stuck firm at 25 per cent when the UK asked for 35 per cent.
    The Prime Minister was forced to drop his demands in exchange for a six-month cut in the transition period from the six years the EU was offering to five and a half.
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    The EU has cocked up Covid vaccines in a massive way
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ggest-failure/

    Briefly the Eu regulators have yet to approve the German Pfizer vaccine, want all EU countries to start vaccinating at the same time causing more delays, haven’t ordered enough doses of it and won’t get sufficient for three months haven’t ordered Moderna vaccine. Their economy will be lose another quarter as a result. Germans are hopping mad at te bureaucracy and photos of UK patients getting their vaccine two weeks ago have sent them ballistic.

    Even then it declined the full offer of 500m doses for the EU27. The Commission ordered just 200m, with an option for 100m more. It also turned down most of the offer from Moderna, the other mRNA front-runner.

    According to Der Spiegel there had to be parity with Sanofi’s "French vaccine", which has since gone badly awry and is unlikely to come on stream before the end of 2021. "Buying more from a German company wasn't in the cards,” said one source.

    You think our Governent has cocked up read this to see we aren’t that bad after all. This is exactly why we need to leave.
    Happy days
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    Put SkyNews on this morning, they were talking about a deal almost done, should be finalised today. Thank god for that I thought, can we move onto something else now at last and put it behind us. Next thing they said, 'but it won't please everybody'.

    Oh no, seems there's no escape, we get a deal and the media can't wait to wheel out people moaning about it. I switched it off.

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    Even I am willing to catch the blonde-haired, grinning, smirking, clueless clown a break at present.

    COVID-19 and bloody Brexit is more than enough for anybody to handle, especially when you have a useless Cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins who are supposed to "support" you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Put SkyNews on this morning, they were talking about a deal almost done, should be finalised today. Thank god for that I thought, can we move onto something else now at last and put it behind us. Next thing they said, 'but it won't please everybody'.

    Oh no, seems there's no escape, we get a deal and the media can't wait to wheel out people moaning about it. I switched it off.
    There’s always someone wanting to criticise government

    We know this could all have been sorted in a few weeks but for the antagonistic EU trying to devise ways of keeping us in for the money. Separating the withdrawal agreement and Brexit deal was a delaying ploy and they could and should have been agreed at the same time. May should have taken control. Thank goodness Boris did.

    The Irish back stop was always a nonsense if a deal was agreed, but Varadkhar loved his moments of glory and stuffing the UK, likewise Macron with fish. He could still kill it too! Boris will get it for conceding fishing, but we don’t have the capacity to fish the lot so it makes sense to stage it. Hope his MPs don’t cause upset and if so Sir Rodney actually gets of the fence and supports Boris. The SNP won’t, but they will now look stupid now demanding to rejoin and use the euro. Could end Nicolas dreams for a generation. (please god icon!) of course the EU will have inserted some time bombs and big issues like London financial role may not be agreed yet.

    Will be great to say bye, and then hello again in a new guise. Nice to see the EU bureaucracy causing 27 countries Covid pain so quickly and the French German axis being at the root of it.
    How long will it last now, shaky nail time I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Even I am willing to catch the blonde-haired, grinning, smirking, clueless clown a break at present.

    COVID-19 and bloody Brexit is more than enough for anybody to handle, especially when you have a useless Cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins who are supposed to "support" you.
    Is that praise for Boris ... and Dominic

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    Is that praise for Boris ... and Dominic
    Not praise, but the reality is this twin sh!tfest is a lot for one blonde-haired, grinning, smirking, clueless clown to handle on his own.

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    Thank goodness we have cobbled a trade deal together!

    Our economy was in trouble enough as it was without big barriers to trade with the EU.

    Not my preferred outcome of course, but I can live with it, especially as it looked like we were leaving with no deal around a week ago.

    We'll have to see what the real implications are in the next few days, but I am very relieved tonight!

    One thing that is absolutely bonkers though was to leave the Erasmus scheme. That was totally unnecessary.

    No doubt there will be other stuff that comes out in the wash, but I am reasonably content after hearing the initial details.

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