Match Thread vs. Chesterfield 20.02.21 [NL]

[Warnocks Legends]

I think maybe you have got it wrong matt. You've probably been reading the myth on here that if posters only appear after a defeat, it means they have an agenda against Ardley and want Notts to lose just so they can moan.

It's not true. Football is an emotive game where defeat hurts. Some react in a knee-jerk way, but it's because they are angry and frustrated, not because they want us to lose.

Well said Elite, today's performance was terrible and it hurts me to the core, hence I come on and have a rant.whereas on non matchdays , I tend to be more measured when the hackles are not up

[matt_magpie]

I think maybe you have got it wrong matt. You've probably been reading the myth on here that if posters only appear after a defeat, it means they have an agenda against Ardley and want Notts to lose just so they can moan.

It's not true. Football is an emotive game where defeat hurts. Some react in a knee-jerk way, but it's because they are angry and frustrated, not because they want us to lose.

Maybe Elite, KC has been so ferocious and constant in his views about Ardley which largely I haven't agreed with but some I have. I agree it's emotive, I'm questioning tonight the manager and squad, though if we win the next 3 I will be happy as a pig in muck, internally we need to take stock, we're in a great position points wise, this is where the hard decision making needs to take place.

[Elite_Pie]

In other news, Torquay get an equaliser against Halifax just before half time in the BT game.

[BigFatPie]

Well no one has done it too often at the lane this season and last, granted a a small few have. It's probably a good thing, we need to assess now as we're not halfway through the season (nearly), points are on the board and that's a positive. We are seriously weak upfront in the CF positions, I think Doyle and Reeves have been decent centre mid but do we need another option in there, not sure its Wolfe, just someone a bit more different as an option.

We’ve already lost 4 at home? 3 of them in very similar circumstances.

The best performance lately was when Ardley’s game plan had to be thrown out very early on.

What do you think that tells you?

[matt_magpie]

There won't be a reaction. Ardley said he's been 'Mr. Angry' this week. Clearly it's had and inspirational effect. We are lucky to have such a talented motivator in our ranks.

We could have Mbappe up there...but it would make no difference as we spend most of the game passing the ball around in our own half.

We don't create chances. Wootton has had nothing again today.

Some good some bad in this years transfers but I'm not convinced this team is any better than last year, if as good?

KC's prediction:

Chesterfield will knock us out of the Playoffs. You heard it here first.

We’ve already lost 4 at home? 3 of them in very similar circumstances.

The best performance lately was when Ardley’s game plan had to be thrown out very early on.

What do you think that tells you?

No I think daggers were awful, over committed against 10 men, lost the ball and we were given acres of space. Rodriguez was sublime that night, tonight for example all he has to do is put that last free kick in the box and he shanks it. There’s 2 challenges we need to overcome quick, teams that totally sit back and teams that aggressively press us, tbf there going to be regular challenges, the former we have got by with just, the latter is obviously an issue.

[KCNotts]

How that was not 2-0 with that one on one at the end I'll never know.

Probably the most disappointing performance of the season for me and we deserved nothing from that game at all. We did not test the keeper once in the entire game. To be fair to Cheaterfield they did a job on us by pressing, working hard, giving us no time on the ball and nullified any threat because we did not have the dominance of play or possession. We did not have anywhere near the quality, energy, creativity or spark to overcome that in the final third as has been the case many times this season.

It's games like today where our lack of creativity and ability to score more goals is going to cost us points. It puts more pressure on us getting a result against Stockport next.

There is no doubt about it we are far weaker up top this season having lost Thomas and Dennis. If we fail to get promoted this will be one of the key reasons.

HArdley was on about bringing a couple of players in. Defenders most prob. Plus, how many players does he bloody need?

Indeed!

Worryingly he also said that they have come up with a list of players and sent them to the owners to have a look at. It was my understanding (hope) that it would be Football Radar recommending players to Ardley?

The signings since Abbott came in have been more of the usual rubbish. Chicksen, Walker, Effiong, Miller etc. Granted that Barnett looks alright.

[AllNottsAreWe]

I think we do need an experienced proven goalscorer at this level to support Wootton and take the pressure of him. Dennis was that man as he had done it at Macclesfield previously. I don't want to open up the debate about we should have kept him, or we let him go as that ship has sailed and you can't begrudge anyone wanting to play at the highest level they can.

What I will say is we need someone similar and of the same ilk and qualities as Dennis.

A Jamie Cureton type player. They are always expensive and every team wants one.

If we don't go up, this sort of player needs to be a priority.

Just out of interest, how many players will be over 30 (ex keepers) , in the close season, Brindley, Rawlinson, Turner, O'Brien, Doyle, McCrory, do we need younger quicker hungrier players ?

[KCNotts]

How that was not 2-0 with that one on one at the end I'll never know.

Probably the most disappointing performance of the season for me and we deserved nothing from that game at all. We did not test the keeper once in the entire game. To be fair to Cheaterfield they did a job on us by pressing, working hard, giving us no time on the ball and nullified any threat because we did not have the dominance of play or possession. We did not have anywhere near the quality, energy, creativity or spark to overcome that in the final third as has been the case many times this season.

It's games like today where our lack of creativity and ability to score more goals is going to cost us points. It puts more pressure on us getting a result against Stockport next.

There is no doubt about it we are far weaker up top this season having lost Thomas and Dennis. If we fail to get promoted this will be one of the key reasons.

Maybe Elite, KC has been so ferocious and constant in his views about Ardley which largely I haven't agreed with but some I have. I agree it's emotive, I'm questioning tonight the manager and squad, though if we win the next 3 I will be happy as a pig in muck, internally we need to take stock, we're in a great position points wise, this is where the hard decision making needs to take place.

Ferocious!😁

I hardly post on here! And even then it's just my observations about the game or the current state of affairs. It's no secret that I hate the way we play pointless possession football based around a 39 year old, and think Ardley should have gone when we were relegated... But I'm eagerly waiting to be proved wrong about him. Trouble is we keep playing absolute gash football against woeful teams.

I wish i didn't behave to be negative.

[BanjoPie]

Sutton are showing us how to do it,smashing 4 goals in, we never ever roll teams over, it's always slender wins. We need a quality striker very very quickly .

I really don’t believe that the problem is with the strikers, as someone said earlier, we could have mbappe up front and still not score. The issue lies with the midfield in general and Doyle in particular. It proved as much when Doyle went in goal allowing the midfield to start being creative and moving the ball forward. Some some reason Ardley cannot see this but whilst ever Doyle is allowed to control play, we will struggle and the forwards will have very few goal-scoring opportunities and we will have to rely on the odd occasion when either Enzio, Rodrigues (or Roberts when available) produce a flash of brilliance. WE cannot rely on this to get us promoted. Ardley have to see sense or move on.

[nw6pie]

Our best performances this season have come against limited teams that played a suicidal 3-4-3 against us and didn’t press (Wealdstone, Dagenham). We repeatedly struggle against high energy, high press sides because that’s exactly what we’re not.

We’re still a decent striker and midfielder short of mounting a serious promotion challenge, in my eyes. Please send Wolfe back if he’s never going to get game time in the league and bring someone in who can actually get on the ball and drive us forward.