Asylum Seekers - Win In High Court

[WBA1955]

Surprise surprise, whatever next?🙄

[baggielad]

If our elderly and vulnerable are living in shocking conditions, the people you should blame are not asylum seekers. It is the Government, who should provide the funds so living conditions are acceptable.

Its a divide and rule system that the Govt are so good at. The Government should ensure children and elderly people are not living in poverty. It is their responsibility.

Instead you have Boris Johnson ordering £27,000 worth of takeaways - more than the average UK salary and paid for by God knows who. Whilst simultaneously proposing and voting against providing free school meals for poverty stricken children during a pandemic. They are so far out of touch it is unreal, and it makes me far angrier than Asylum Seekers who have just won a court case.

Completely agree with this. It probably shows the state of politics in this country when the bunch shysters we have in charge at the moment get a free reign to do what they want and still top the polls. The population in this country at the moment are happy to go along with populist policies without actually questioning what is going on.

[OWV]

Completely agree with this. It probably shows the state of politics in this country when the bunch shysters we have in charge at the moment get a free reign to do what they want and still top the polls. The population in this country at the moment are happy to go along with populist policies without actually questioning what is going on.

Absolutely. I made a 2nd post earlier in response to an absurdly I'll informed comment from another poster, it seems to have been removed though. That's fine if it didn't meet the necessary standards.

What I'll add is this though. Topics like this whip up the ignorant and prejudiced amongst us and they show their true colours. It's worrying how poorly informed some people are, despite information being readily available at their fingertips, and how they're usually the first and loudest to crow about such matters. They really need to educate themselves before letting loose because their opinions are not only based in garbage, they're dangerous too. These people fear the left and have a remaining unhealthy obsession with Corbyn for some reason yet don't even understand they're living under one of the most comfortable right wing governments we've ever seen. What more do they want?

[mickd1961]

They were happy to live in shanty towns and tents over in France they cross the channel and enter Britain ILLEGALLY and moan about the conditions they are kept in

You couldn’t make it up

For the first time in a long time I had to visit Lye near Stourbridge today to pick up a prescription.

Absolutely shocking, the place was like a ghetto, I was one of around only 5% of whites people I would estimate.

The problem with the Eastern European’s who’ve been allowed to take over Lye is that they just have no standards, the place is a disgusting, filthy s h I t hole.

I came from a very working class background and lived barely a mile and a half from Lye, I went to school a quarter of a mile from the place.

It was always a demographically poorer area and very much white hard working class in the 70’s.

Look back at pictures of the area in that decade though and you’ll see how clean and crisp it was, people were poorer than average but they had pride, they kept their gardens tidy and the streets were clean.

The Romanians and mainly Pakistani community who live there now just drop their s hi t at their feet, their gardens are a foot high with grass uncut and rubbish piled up.

My gran came from a family of coal miners and they were dirt poor but their clothing, their own hygiene and their homes were like new pins if you look back at pictures I have from the 20’s and 30’s.......gran always drummed into me that being poor didn’t give you an excuse for poor standards.

My biggest issue with immigration has always been the lack of respect a lot of these people have for themselves and our culture.

123.......I know you’re safely ensconced down south but next time you come up for a game please take a detour to Lye and spend half an hour walking around.

It’s very sad and very unnecessary.

[kettering_baggie]

When we come to the Hawthorns, we usually park on Wattville Road and walk through Malvern Rd or Paddington Rd, you wouldn’t believe the filth that people live in around there, or maybe you would, it’s absolutely disgusting. I would say that the area is 99.5% Asian and they do their reputations no favours by creating and living in that state. No wonder that Covid ripped through the Asian community when they live close together in conditions like that. Yes, I do realise that not all Asians live like that but they do keep very much within their own communities so when something like Covid comes along, it will inevitably hit them hard. It really isn’t necessary to live in such disgusting conditions.

[WBA123]

For the first time in a long time I had to visit Lye near Stourbridge today to pick up a prescription.

Absolutely shocking, the place was like a ghetto, I was one of around only 5% of whites people I would estimate.

The problem with the Eastern European’s who’ve been allowed to take over Lye is that they just have no standards, the place is a disgusting, filthy s h I t hole.

I came from a very working class background and lived barely a mile and a half from Lye, I went to school a quarter of a mile from the place.

It was always a demographically poorer area and very much white hard working class in the 70’s.

Look back at pictures of the area in that decade though and you’ll see how clean and crisp it was, people were poorer than average but they had pride, they kept their gardens tidy and the streets were clean.

The Romanians and mainly Pakistani community who live there now just drop their s hi t at their feet, their gardens are a foot high with grass uncut and rubbish piled up.

My gran came from a family of coal miners and they were dirt poor but their clothing, their own hygiene and their homes were like new pins if you look back at pictures I have from the 20’s and 30’s.......gran always drummed into me that being poor didn’t give you an excuse for poor standards.

My biggest issue with immigration has always been the lack of respect a lot of these people have for themselves and our culture.

123.......I know you’re safely ensconced down south but next time you come up for a game please take a detour to Lye and spend half an hour walking around.

It’s very sad and very unnecessary.

Whilst I've not been to Lye for a very, very long time. I live in an area of the country which has more immigrants than almost anywhere in the country. Its not always a bed of roses, but this area voted to remain. Yet an area like Cornwall, which you would think would have a much less rate of immigration compared to most places in the country, voted to Leave.

In fact most city centre's voted remain. Many rural areas voted to Leave. Brexit, you would argue was mostly decided on immigration.

The only explanation I can think is that the more integrated we are, the more accepting we are of other cultures.

I don't doubt there are areas of the country which are not integrated. With high levels of white English or Asian, or European populations densely living together. And that's where resentment grows.

[OWV]

For the first time in a long time I had to visit Lye near Stourbridge today to pick up a prescription.

Absolutely shocking, the place was like a ghetto, I was one of around only 5% of whites people I would estimate.

The problem with the Eastern European’s who’ve been allowed to take over Lye is that they just have no standards, the place is a disgusting, filthy s h I t hole.

I came from a very working class background and lived barely a mile and a half from Lye, I went to school a quarter of a mile from the place.

It was always a demographically poorer area and very much white hard working class in the 70’s.

Look back at pictures of the area in that decade though and you’ll see how clean and crisp it was, people were poorer than average but they had pride, they kept their gardens tidy and the streets were clean.

The Romanians and mainly Pakistani community who live there now just drop their s hi t at their feet, their gardens are a foot high with grass uncut and rubbish piled up.

My gran came from a family of coal miners and they were dirt poor but their clothing, their own hygiene and their homes were like new pins if you look back at pictures I have from the 20’s and 30’s.......gran always drummed into me that being poor didn’t give you an excuse for poor standards.

My biggest issue with immigration has always been the lack of respect a lot of these people have for themselves and our culture.

123.......I know you’re safely ensconced down south but next time you come up for a game please take a detour to Lye and spend half an hour walking around.

It’s very sad and very unnecessary.

I know Lye quite well and it's not the prettiest of places and I'm not sure what the Romanian population are offering around there but they do seem to be standing around not doing a lot. However, I'm not comfortable with your implication that because it seemed 5% white, therefore it must be a problem.

Not all areas with a high population of Asian people are 'bad'. Take Handsworth Wood for example. Anyway, there are clearly issues with some members of the Asian population, just like there are with white people. The Lost City in Tipton? Or travel back in time to the 80s and visit Hateley Heath in West Brom or the Yew Tree and you'd be in for a shock. The reason s for the similarities are overwhelmingly socio-economic. Sure sometimes the transition from rural communities in Pakistan for example is a difficult one to make when coming to live in an industrialised country like here, but these are quite nuanced. There are good and bad in every community, it seems however that its rare for people to highlight the positive aspects of immigration. Probably because it doesn't suit their feeble insecurities and deep rooted prejudices.

What's telling is the fact that there's been no mention of the racist murder of the poor kid in Kingstanding, but people get mad about a bit of rubbish on the street. Unbelievable.

[baggieal]

I know Lye quite well and it's not the prettiest of places and I'm not sure what the Romanian population are offering around there but they do seem to be standing around not doing a lot. However, I'm not comfortable with your implication that because it seemed 5% white, therefore it must be a problem.

Not all areas with a high population of Asian people are 'bad'. Take Handsworth Wood for example. Anyway, there are clearly issues with some members of the Asian population, just like there are with white people. The Lost City in Tipton? Or travel back in time to the 80s and visit Hateley Heath in West Brom or the Yew Tree and you'd be in for a shock. The reason s for the similarities are overwhelmingly socio-economic. Sure sometimes the transition from rural communities in Pakistan for example is a difficult one to make when coming to live in an industrialised country like here, but these are quite nuanced. There are good and bad in every community, it seems however that its rare for people to highlight the positive aspects of immigration. Probably because it doesn't suit their feeble insecurities and deep rooted prejudices.

What's telling is the fact that there's been no mention of the racist murder of the poor kid in Kingstanding, but people get mad about a bit of rubbish on the street. Unbelievable.

This thread was started regarding Ayslum seekers which many people of any race, colour or religion have strong views including Priti Patel who is trying to be tougher than the waste of space Boris. Well done Patel! I know many elderly who live/have lived in worse conditions than these barracks and they are UK passport holders who have paid into the system all their lives. These Ayslum seekers have a clear choice - if they don't like what meets their expectations they can return to their tents in France or Countries where they came from. It's that simple. Many kids in this country even go without a hot meal hence all the hard work from people like Rashford! You will now understand why many are fuming at people coming over illegally in dinghies and milking the system!

Please do not turn this into a racist thread like your kingstanding reference ( although very sad )! You fail to mention the young white university lad out on a night out in Birmingham who was stabbed to death by a deranged black guy! This was swept under the carpet. Why? There are two sides to every story!

In summary, there are good and bad in every race but nobody has a right of expectation in any country when some of its own citizens are living in worse conditions. Any foreigner entering any country in my book should be thrown out if they cause a criminal offence whether it's a Brit in Spain or a Eastern European in the UK! Surely there should be an allegiance to that countries flag and customs prior to consent to entry!

Like the USA - I would play the national anthem before every sporting event in the UK and ban this bollox of taking the knee which is taking black lives matter backwards.

Those people who booed at the England v Austria match when players were taking the knee are not racist! They are people like many who love sport and sick of a political statement ( yawn yawn ) before every sporting event. That said - I would support billboards etc communicating we are united against racism!

Football is being turned into a farcical nonsense. Don't start me off on the outcry of wearing a poppy where the older generation actually fought to save our country including past family members of mine.

You have touched a nerve!

[kettering_baggie]

OWV, I think that you are missing the point completely. I don’t think that anyone on here is expressing racist views but unfortunately, what is now referred to as the ‘woke, PC brigade’ do not accept any viewpoint other than their own extreme versions. If you don’t agree with them, you are racist. Of course, that is arrant nonsense. People do not like to be lectured to by a bunch of self appointed moral crusaders and that is generating a backlash. Take the knee bending nonsense, for example, anyone with half a brain would not set up a movement using the same name as an overtly racist, anarchistic movement as ‘Black Lives Matter’. Of course it generates resentment, sadly, the movers and shakers in football are too thick to see that it is counterproductive; maybe they are racist too? As for all the stabbing in this country at the moment, the vast majority are ‘black on black’, which doesn’t make them any less tragic but it does give a hint to why some people hold the views that they do. Then there is the everlasting problem of immigration. I don’t see how anyone can deny that illegal immigration, whether it be to the UK or any other Northern European country, is just not sustainable in the long term. It is no surprise that there is resentment, we are all human and all subject to fears and emotions that are natural to us humans; none of us are perfect and as a species have a natural inclination to what we see as self preservation. Is this cruel, inhuman, racist or whatever? Maybe, but there is no dispute that there are massive social problems that will have to be dealt with and you won’t please all of the people with any solution. It’s a tough old world out there and it isn’t going to get easier. Getting on a high horse and lecturing people how they should behave just won’t work.

Here endeth the sermon!

[kettering_baggie]

Oh yes, and I will add that clarity was provided by Guinness!