Solihull Appoint Ardley

[laddo]

It can't be 100% to anyone the only real argument is the proportion for each candidate in that sorry mess. And that discussion and argument can go on for ever with some blaming Hardy the most for the above reasons, other blaming Ardley and maybe some blaming Nolan or the sorry group of players including all those bad apples.

Either way people's opinions this far down the line are very unlikely to change. Mine certainly won't, when you are the boss you are ultimately responsible for the actions and results (lack of) of the team beneath you be it managers and players.

It's hard not to smile thinking bad just how bad that season was, and how unexpected it was. From almost heroes to absolute zeros in one season. Quite the achievement for all involved.

But now for me it's all about the Burchnall Bandwagon and how it moves forward.

[Elite_Pie]

Personally I do believe that Hardy should carry the can. 100%. IMO
- he wanted a different more attacking style of play
- backed Nolan with serious finance to try and achieve this
- pisses off Forest so we don’t get any of the decent talent on loan, instead they go to Mansfield
- promptly sacked Nolan stating he should have done it sooner. Despite backing him with finances
- brought in a new manager based nothing more than he was a Liverpool legend
- promptly sacks Kewell
- brings in Ardley
- gets cock out on Twitter
- runs one company in to the ground
- promptly puts Notts up for sale
- oversees Notts relegation

So yes Hardy should be held responsible, to blame anyone else is ridiculous. If you want to blame a manager, he employed them. If you want to blame players, be authorised the signing of them.

So the pitiful way Ardley took us out of the Football League with barely a whimper is 100% down to Hardy?

Because Yeovil imploded so badly, all Ardley had to do was maintain the 7 point start he had on crisis club Macclesfield. He was incapable of doing what should have been a straightforward task, but you see him as totally blameless?

Incredible.

[upthemaggies]

That he's ended up at a club that averaged 1.403 last season says it all for me.

[Notts78]

So the pitiful way Ardley took us out of the Football League with barely a whimper is 100% down to Hardy?

Because Yeovil imploded so badly, all Ardley had to do was maintain the 7 point start he had on crisis club Macclesfield. He was incapable of doing what should have been a straightforward task, but you see him as totally blameless?

Incredible.

Never said he was blameless but ultimately the buck stops with the top man. Their have been managers sacked this season when it looked like they wouldn’t make the playoffs, one manager sacked once a playoff spot was secured. These were decisive decisions made to try and give the respective clubs the best opportunity of success.
Hardy was too busy with multiple other issues all bought on by himself to see that Ardley wasn’t going to keep us up, and didn’t pull the trigger.
THAT is on Hardy and Hardy alone. Incredible that a man of your calibre (albeit diminishing) can’t see that.

[Elite_Pie]

Never said he was blameless but ultimately the buck stops with the top man.

While you never said directly that Ardley was blameless, you said "Personally I do believe that Hardy should carry the can. 100%. IMO".

My maths skills tell me that if Hardy gets 100% of the blame, that leaves 0% for all the others.

[laddo]

Nobody is entirely blameless that season, not the 3 managers, not the playing squad and certainly not the the chairman/owner. That's crazy talk.

If I'm not mistaken Nolan was sacked with us in the relegation zone. Kewell was subsequently appointed and sacked with us in the relegation zone. Ardley was also appointed with us in the relegation zone (of just 2 teams remember!!) and then finished the season obviously in the relegation.

That's a level of (awful, embarrassing) consistency which almost has to be admired from the 3 managers involved.

The common denominator throughout, the Chairman, the owner, the decision-maker, the boss.

Not 100% but I think I will stick with him being the most to blame. When you are that top guy you have to take the lionshare of the responsibility when sh!t goes south.

And boy did it go south (Eastleigh I believe)

[upthemaggies]

Kewell was subsequently appointed and sacked with us in the relegation zone.

Steve Chettle the caretaker took us back into the relegation zone after Kewell was sacked.

[Notts78]

While you never said directly that Ardley was blameless, you said "Personally I do believe that Hardy should carry the can. 100%. IMO".

My maths skills tell me that if Hardy gets 100% of the blame, that leaves 0% for all the others.

It is my opinion that Hardy should carry the can… I never stated that he should be alone, I never apportioned blame until after that sentence when I listed all the things Hardy did and the control he had on what was a **** storm of a 10 months or so. Hardy was ultimately responsible for the running of the club. He failed. Dramatically. He had the power to change the course of the club but all he did was contribute massively to the sinking of the ship. Was he alone, no.
At what point during that fateful season did you think we were done? Davy suggested it was what Boxing Day when we lost to Macclesfield. I know you were a bit further along the season than that, so which game was the one that you thought, ‘2”we are doomed’? That’s the game we should have changed manager, again. But guess what? We couldn’t because of all the **** that was happening at the club that was caused by one man. HARDY.
So yes In my opinion Hardy carries the can. 100%

[matt_magpie]

It is my opinion that Hardy should carry the can… I never stated that he should be alone, I never apportioned blame until after that sentence when I listed all the things Hardy did and the control he had on what was a **** storm of a 10 months or so. Hardy was ultimately responsible for the running of the club. He failed. Dramatically. He had the power to change the course of the club but all he did was contribute massively to the sinking of the ship. Was he alone, no.
At what point during that fateful season did you think we were done? Davy suggested it was what Boxing Day when we lost to Macclesfield. I know you were a bit further along the season than that, so which game was the one that you thought, ‘2”we are doomed’? That’s the game we should have changed manager, again. But guess what? We couldn’t because of all the **** that was happening at the club that was caused by one man. HARDY.
So yes In my opinion Hardy carries the can. 100%

The warning signs were there pre-season, we got spanked a couple of times, then lost the first 4 league games, we had assembled a ridiculous bloated squad of who on the whole we’re poor players/characters with a manager whos play and results were poor from Jan and who quite frankly looked like he had lost himself too. From then on it was firefighting, Kewell was trying to get out of contract players cos he believed from the massive squad he had they weren’t good enough and the firefighting went on and on.

[Elite_Pie]

It is my opinion that Hardy should carry the can… I never stated that he should be alone, I never apportioned blame until after that sentence when I listed all the things Hardy did and the control he had on what was a **** storm of a 10 months or so. Hardy was ultimately responsible for the running of the club. He failed. Dramatically. He had the power to change the course of the club but all he did was contribute massively to the sinking of the ship. Was he alone, no.
At what point during that fateful season did you think we were done? Davy suggested it was what Boxing Day when we lost to Macclesfield. I know you were a bit further along the season than that, so which game was the one that you thought, ‘2”we are doomed’? That’s the game we should have changed manager, again. But guess what? We couldn’t because of all the **** that was happening at the club that was caused by one man. HARDY.
So yes In my opinion Hardy carries the can. 100%

Sorry, but on the one hand you say "It is my opinion that Hardy should carry the can… I never stated that he should be alone", and on the other hand you say "So yes In my opinion Hardy carries the can. 100%".

I'm struggling to make sense of that. If Hardy is 100% to blame, then it's his fault and his fault alone. If it isn't his fault alone, how is he 100% to blame? It's a long time since I was at school, but when I was last there 100% meant 100%.