Tshimanga

[frenchmagpie]

As a matter of interest which would you consider to be the last team who got promoted from this league by spending (comparatively) big?

So apart from Barrow and Sutton, in the COVID affected seasons, most of them it seems. Worrying given the spending going on around us. But I think team spirit and enthusiasm goes a long way. Stars in the dressing room can dampen that.

[jacobncfc]

So apart from Barrow and Sutton, in the COVID affected seasons, most of them it seems. Worrying given the spending going on around us. But I think team spirit and enthusiasm goes a long way. Stars in the dressing room can dampen that.

Hartlepool didn’t spend much at all, and Harrogate only did relative to the size of the club really rather than the rest of the league.

[Killerkline]

I see Palmer as a slight upgrade on Reeves. Francis could be great...but he is learning a new role (i have no issues with Doyle being replaced), Vincent...who knows?

My hope with Palmer is that he’s much more than a slight upgrade on Reeves. I struggle to remember Reeves controlling a game, Palmer as the ability to do that.

I think we lack a rat in midfield and somebody who is physically imposing. I think we are very weak defensively at wing back and we will concede a lot of goals due to our inability to stop crosses. I also think our defence is incredibly slow. I like Rawlinson, but he has limitations, Chicksen and Brindley are just not CBs IMO and I'd have hope we would sign better. Who knows what sort of form Lacey will come back in. Cameron looks a decent signing, but he will be left exposed for reasons listed above.

I’d be very surprised if we play Brindley and Chicksen as CB’s in the same game. Brindley will be fine, but I agree re Chicksen. He’ll get targeted by the opposition particularly at set pieces.

Never really been a fan of Slocombover either.

A keeper needs to be judged over the course of a season. Slocombe has definitely won Notts more points than he’s lost. Yes, he’s made a few mistakes preseason. But, I rate him as one of, if not the best in the NL.

[TSANHO]

A keeper needs to be judged over the course of a season. Slocombe has definitely won Notts more points than he’s lost. Yes, he’s made a few mistakes preseason. But, I rate him as one of, if not the best in the NL.

Slocombe has been one of the best signings we’ve made since losing our football league status. He has been largely excellent for us. He’s playing in the National League, he’s never going to be fault free, like any keeper at this level.

[Frigiliana Pie 1]

Much of the attention is being focused on expensive strikers but at the end of the season it could be the two sides with the best defences that win promotion.

Our defence has made a few errors in preseason so far, but it’s early days as far as integrating our new signing (Cameron) is concerned, and also in organising our midfield in carrying out their defensive work. If IB can do this successfully and we can get a fully fit Lacey back in the team, then it will tell heavily in our favour.

[matt_magpie]

I believe we could have signed Tshimanga financially. I think it’s a case of IB and the owners believing we will get enough goals out of Wooton,
Roberts and Rodriguez if they stay fit and also Mitchell which they classed as their number 1 target too and obviously Sam and Knight to back up. There’s only so many forwards you can have for morale wise and I think we’re just going to have to trust them on it.

[Killerkline]

Slocombe has been one of the best signings we’ve made since losing our football league status. He has been largely excellent for us. He’s playing in the National League, he’s never going to be fault free, like any keeper at this level.

Completely agree. I think you’d struggle to find a better keeper in L2.

[ncfcog]

This whole debate about signing a proven goal scorer and Tshimanga is better than Wootton etc is just nonsense. Wootton actually has one of the highest goal contribution stats in the NL for last season when you include assists, even better if you factor in 2nd assists.

Compared to Tshimanga, Wootton scored 17 non penalty goals in the NL league last season, Tshimanga scored 14 non penalty goals and 5 penalties so scored 2 more in total in the league. If Wootton had scored the two or three pens he missed then their stats would be almost identical.

Wootton plays to our systems strengths, I'm not sure Tshimanga would. In Wootton I honestly believe we have one of the best strikers in the league already and if the Maddens, Mullins and Tshimanga's of the world don't get the service they need to score goals they will have been very expensive experiments for those sides.

With Ruben, Roberts, Mitchell, Taylor, Palmer and Nemane behind him I would suggest Wootton has a very good chance of bagging an absolute hatful this season.

Oh, and regarding his missed chances, his xG is fractionally higher than his actual goals so although he maybe missed a few sitters there are goals he wouldn't have been expected to score but did.

. . . and I'm not writing all this just because I love Kyle Wootton, well i am really!

[Chicken Balti Pie]

This whole debate about signing a proven goal scorer and Tshimanga is better than Wootton etc is just nonsense. Wootton actually has one of the highest goal contribution stats in the NL for last season when you include assists, even better if you factor in 2nd assists.

Compared to Tshimanga, Wootton scored 17 non penalty goals in the NL league last season, Tshimanga scored 14 non penalty goals and 5 penalties so scored 2 more in total in the league. If Wootton had scored the two or three pens he missed then their stats would be almost identical.

Wootton plays to our systems strengths, I'm not sure Tshimanga would. In Wootton I honestly believe we have one of the best strikers in the league already and if the Maddens, Mullins and Tshimanga's of the world don't get the service they need to score goals they will have been very expensive experiments for those sides.

With Ruben, Roberts, Mitchell, Taylor, Palmer and Nemane behind him I would suggest Wootton has a very good chance of bagging an absolute hatful this season.

Oh, and regarding his missed chances, his xG is fractionally higher than his actual goals so although he maybe missed a few sitters there are goals he wouldn't have been expected to score but did.

. . . and I'm not writing all this just because I love Kyle Wootton, well i am really!

My view is not to replace Wootton because he does an awful lot for the team as a whole. But I do feel we are lacking one of those out right goal scorers (and no, I don't believe Tshimanga is that!) But you're yet again bang on with your analysis.

[Killerkline]

This whole debate about signing a proven goal scorer and Tshimanga is better than Wootton etc is just nonsense. Wootton actually has one of the highest goal contribution stats in the NL for last season when you include assists, even better if you factor in 2nd assists.

Compared to Tshimanga, Wootton scored 17 non penalty goals in the NL league last season, Tshimanga scored 14 non penalty goals and 5 penalties so scored 2 more in total in the league. If Wootton had scored the two or three pens he missed then their stats would be almost identical.

Wootton plays to our systems strengths, I'm not sure Tshimanga would. In Wootton I honestly believe we have one of the best strikers in the league already and if the Maddens, Mullins and Tshimanga's of the world don't get the service they need to score goals they will have been very expensive experiments for those sides.

With Ruben, Roberts, Mitchell, Taylor, Palmer and Nemane behind him I would suggest Wootton has a very good chance of bagging an absolute hatful this season.

Oh, and regarding his missed chances, his xG is fractionally higher than his actual goals so although he maybe missed a few sitters there are goals he wouldn't have been expected to score but did.

. . . and I'm not writing all this just because I love Kyle Wootton, well i am really!

How dare you bring balance, supported by stats, to a discussion. Moderator, please can you have a word with this sensible poster!