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Thread: Fleetwood Town Post Match Thoughts

  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Miller View Post
    What a set of 'supporters'. JULIUS CAESAR would have loved you. What'll your tune be when we smash Lincoln. You're just chaff in the wind. Dunno why Warne doesn't walk away and give you what you want. Wouldn't have wanted any of you at Rourkes Drift.
    Glad you enjoyed the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Miller View Post
    What a set of 'supporters'. JULIUS CAESAR would have loved you. What'll your tune be when we smash Lincoln. You're just chaff in the wind. Dunno why Warne doesn't walk away and give you what you want. Wouldn't have wanted any of you at Rourkes Drift.
    Sometimes you have to be just straight up honest. We can't dress that up today, it was dog turd. 5 minutes first half aside we were atrocious for 85 minutes. I'm meant to be a Warney Boy but he didn't do himself any favours today. Sometimes you need it straight from those who want the best for you going forward. I want the best for PW and RUFC, to get there we cannot attempt to play football (generous) like we did today. I want us to win together and lose together, but there is a way to lose, it isn't how we did today.

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    Been waiting to cool down before posting. Just been watching an 18 year old show more fight, skill and determination than our lot put together.
    Should have won easily today, we are a much better side than them and better than most if not all in the league, but wehave to play to our strengths. I have often said I'm not a Warne out man and that's true but he needs to accept his failings. The current 3-5-2 isn't working for the following reasons. Playing Harding on the left side out of position to accommodate Woodys lack of pace has cost us 3 goals this season. The players who are supposedly wing backs can't defend and it gives less talented teams opportunities to hurt us.
    Today was a perfect example of a better managed poorer side beating a more talented side with no direction.
    We all love Wiles, he's one of our own but the manager's insistence on him being on the pitch whatever happens will spoil him, if Warne insists on finding a place for him then it ought to be wide left midfield, that's where we're lacking.
    Johansson. Thought his mistake against the pigs was a one off, but now having doubts about him , could have done better with a couple of their goals today.
    Ihiekwe. Not to blame for any of the goals IMO but seems more comfortable in a back 4.
    Harding. Feel sorry for the lad, wants to play right back, the best right back in the division but Warne plays him out of position on the left, costing us 3 goals.
    Wood. Poor today, and we can't keep playing Harding out of position to accommodate him as a back 3 he needs to play in a back 4 or not at all.
    Wiles. Warne is spoiling the lad, the fans can see where other players are being overlooked for his presence. I love him but not at all costs.
    Lindsay. Did very little and doesn't seem to be the player that he was.
    Rathbone. Looks to make things happen, always busy and dangerous, why does the manager always take him off when he's always the best player on the pitch.
    Ogbene. Tried hard usually hat 3 men on him, wish he could find a man with his crosses.
    Sadlier. Only plays well against Donny, I don't know how much Peterborough offered but I'd have snatched their hands off, done nowt for me all the time he's been here, I hope he proves me wrong.
    Smith. Did what does and scored a goal can't ask for a lot more.
    Ladapo. I so want him to come good but today did nothing, wasted what chances he had and didn't look bothered, he needs to buck up or f##k off.
    As stated previously I think we have the players to win this league properly managed, and I hope that they all reflect and learn from today, the management team especially.
    3 questions I'd like to ask are:-
    Where was Ferguson today?
    What is happening to McDonald
    And why did we let Tilt go if we need a left sided centre half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Divided right from the start, as the players took the knee, and it got no better
    Interesting. It's hard to tell what the crowd reaction is when watching on i-follow as I'm fairly sure it's muted, which in itself suggests that you are right.

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    Left it until this morning to post, so here goes. By our own standards we were poor, that's for sure, and whilst I agree with everyone that Harding had a poor game, certainly by his own standards, the Viking was also awful and I thought he should have stopped all of their first three goals.
    The first 2 goals were from reasonably tight angles, which favours the goalkeeper, but both beat him, and the free kick, as good a strike as it was, was also across him and into the side of the net he was positioned, and, for me anyway, should have stopped it going in.
    Freddie, who did nothing all game, should have been replaced by Grigg when the score went to 2-2 but I did agree on him being left on when it was 4-2 and Grigg came on although Freddie still did nothing even then, yes hindsight is a wonderful thing.
    Young Wiles, whilst not MOM, was one of our better players for me and at least he always tries to make things happen, as does Rathbone, and I would have taken Lindsay off to bring Barlaser on, but again I'm pretty good on hindsight.
    Even for all that, we still got ourselves into some great positions but then seemed to pannick and make totally the wrong choice with the ball, Smudger got a ball on edge of box and then he couldn't decide whether to shoot or pass to Freddie so did neither, and 2 mins later got on the end of a cross and couldn't decide whether to head for goal or head it across goal and did neither.
    All in all a poor day at the office so that's now gone and onto Lincoln. UTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakethemiller View Post
    Been waiting to cool down before posting. Just been watching an 18 year old show more fight, skill and determination than our lot put together.
    Should have won easily today, we are a much better side than them and better than most if not all in the league, but wehave to play to our strengths. I have often said I'm not a Warne out man and that's true but he needs to accept his failings. The current 3-5-2 isn't working for the following reasons. Playing Harding on the left side out of position to accommodate Woodys lack of pace has cost us 3 goals this season. The players who are supposedly wing backs can't defend and it gives less talented teams opportunities to hurt us.
    Today was a perfect example of a better managed poorer side beating a more talented side with no direction.
    We all love Wiles, he's one of our own but the manager's insistence on him being on the pitch whatever happens will spoil him, if Warne insists on finding a place for him then it ought to be wide left midfield, that's where we're lacking.
    Johansson. Thought his mistake against the pigs was a one off, but now having doubts about him , could have done better with a couple of their goals today.
    Ihiekwe. Not to blame for any of the goals IMO but seems more comfortable in a back 4.
    Harding. Feel sorry for the lad, wants to play right back, the best right back in the division but Warne plays him out of position on the left, costing us 3 goals.
    Wood. Poor today, and we can't keep playing Harding out of position to accommodate him as a back 3 he needs to play in a back 4 or not at all.
    Wiles. Warne is spoiling the lad, the fans can see where other players are being overlooked for his presence. I love him but not at all costs.
    Lindsay. Did very little and doesn't seem to be the player that he was.
    Rathbone. Looks to make things happen, always busy and dangerous, why does the manager always take him off when he's always the best player on the pitch.
    Ogbene. Tried hard usually hat 3 men on him, wish he could find a man with his crosses.
    Sadlier. Only plays well against Donny, I don't know how much Peterborough offered but I'd have snatched their hands off, done nowt for me all the time he's been here, I hope he proves me wrong.
    Smith. Did what does and scored a goal can't ask for a lot more.
    Ladapo. I so want him to come good but today did nothing, wasted what chances he had and didn't look bothered, he needs to buck up or f##k off.
    As stated previously I think we have the players to win this league properly managed, and I hope that they all reflect and learn from today, the management team especially.
    3 questions I'd like to ask are:-
    Where was Ferguson today?
    What is happening to McDonald
    And why did we let Tilt go if we need a left sided centre half.
    I think you're the only other one jake who mentioned, like me, how poor Viktor was so let's hope this game doesn't affect his confidence, especially with the clanger from the Wednesday game. UTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronners View Post
    I think you're the only other one jake who mentioned, like me, how poor Viktor was so let's hope this game doesn't affect his confidence, especially with the clanger from the Wednesday game. UTM
    Maybe that’s because others didn’t think so

    The first I’d be surprised if he even saw the ball, it was smashed in
    The free kick was excellent, only a taller excellent keeper might have saved them
    The defence need help and Warney let them down, he needs to take some responsibility on that game and not just state the p,Ayers didn’t perform

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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    Maybe that’s because others didn’t think so

    The first I’d be surprised if he even saw the ball, it was smashed in
    The free kick was excellent, only a taller excellent keeper might have saved them
    The defence need help and Warney let them down, he needs to take some responsibility on that game and not just state the p,Ayers didn’t perform
    Yes the first was well struck, but it went straight through him and should have stopped it, the 2nd goal through his legs when he didnt need to spread himself, and if you have watched the free kick on quest, hes stood more or less where the ball went in before its hit, poor poor keeping from ironically one of our most reliable players in recent times. UTM

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    Bit harsh on Viktor IMO. First goal, whilst it went reasonably close to him overhead, was absolutely ferociously struck. I mean he really connected, pure power beat him. Should of been stood up by Wes by he tried poking it away with his right foot across his body, looked clunky and the striker gained half a yard as Wes lost his balance a fraction.

    Second goal through his legs. I think he could of come further out to hurry the lad a touch but I think he was worried about a square ball possibility so delayed. Through the legs looks bad but he tried to make himself big and he is always second favourite when the attacker has so much time to pick his spot.

    Third goal. Superb free kick. You won't see many better all season if you ask me, right in the postage stamp. Was it his side? Yeah and that is frustrating, he shouldn't of gambled and moved across. I don't know if he would of saved it, would of been a top save even if he hadn't of gambled as he isn't the biggest lad in the world.

    Fourth goal. He did pretty much all he could do and then the ball fell to an onrushing striker rather than one of us running back to clear up. I can't remember if it was a cross or shot he parried but one of those things if you ask me.

    I'm not worrying about Viktor, our issues aren't between the sticks.

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    the free kick

    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    Maybe that’s because others didn’t think so

    The first I’d be surprised if he even saw the ball, it was smashed in
    The free kick was excellent, only a taller excellent keeper might have saved them
    The defence need help and Warney let them down, he needs to take some responsibility on that game and not just state the p,Ayers didn’t perform
    First goal I'd agree, it was smashed and a big swerve on it too

    But the free kick - we were pretty much in line and remarked to each other (before they took it) how out of line the wall was, it was at least a yard too far left and as a result it was a straight hit to the corner it went in. Excellent shot mind you but we could and should have had a barrier and we didn't. Now that's down to the keeper I'm afraid

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