Fans' Forum [September 2021]

[laddo]

For me the style of play isn't the problem, the ability for the players to carry it out consistently and quickly is. The patterns of play work but need to be completed with skill and we need to move the ball quicker also being braver. Passing it round the other team with speed and skill, therefore pulling them about and creating space works, we just don't do it well or often enough.

He's right, it's true.

Work in progress. When it works it is a thing of beauty just need it to happen more often.

[LaxtonLad]

Gonna have to disagree slightly...if Notts are top 2-3 and playing good, entertaining footy, then I think that extra 2-3 missing thousand will re-appear. All about entertainment and value for $$

Got to agree with you there, FL.

[upthemaggies]

I don't think you can really go off the whole attendance in the national league, we probably should just be comparing home attendance really to make it fair

That's what those figures are, Notts home attendances only.


And does anybody seriously believe L2 clubs were bringing an average of 2,000 extra fans to ML than NL clubs??????

If L2 away support made any significant difference, how would it have been possible for Trew to average less than we are now after we got relegated from L1? Were away supporters boycotting us because they were peed off that Notts had gone down?

[laddo]

Well I'm shocked our home attendances dropped by 2347 from our last season in L2 and NL.

We know from 2017/18 season in particular that the number of home supporters in games against FGR and Crewe were swelled massively due to cheap tickets.

And naturally playing the likes of Stags, Lincoln, Coventry even when excluding away fans definitely adds plenty on the home gate. So the opposition has a significant impact in certain games against local or big opposition.

Not sure how many cheap ticket game we did the following year.

You looked at the number of games where Meadow Lane had over 6000 in attendance (I assume that includes away fans?) What about the number over 7000?

Regardless of all this the home attendances since dropping to the NL have been superb and very impressive to date.

[upthemaggies]

You looked at the number of games where Meadow Lane had over 6000 in attendance (I assume that includes away fans?) What about the number over 7000?

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Firstly I'm pretty sure the FL had rules regards offers, you could only do so many per season - and I think it was four, I'm not sure.

Home gates over 7k

2015/16 - 1 (Trew)
2016/17 - 8 (Trew/Hardy)
2017/18 - 11 (Hardy)
2018/19 - 11 (Hardy)

2019/20 - 1 (Reedtz)

[upthemaggies]

Another thing that needs acknowledging. Rolf Harris charged us among the very highest prices in the division (both 3rd and 4th tier), Hardy's prices overall likely brought us more in line with the average. A graphic posted earlier this season by Ollie Bayliss suggests we are paying among the top ticket prices in the NL, though - shockingly - we're closely followed by Kings Lynn!!! As far as I can recall the Reedtz bros have done only one match day offer so far which was the one gate they got over 7k (v Fylde).

[magpie_mania]

Another thing that needs acknowledging. Rolf Harris charged us among the very highest prices in the division (both 3rd and 4th tier), Hardy's prices overall likely brought us more in line with the average. A graphic posted earlier this season by Ollie Bayliss suggests we are paying among the top ticket prices in the NL, though - shockingly - we're closely followed by Kings Lynn!!! As far as I can recall the Reedtz bros have done only one match day offer so far which was the one gate they got over 7k (v Fylde).

Notts prices are £22 to sit (reduced by £2 if bought in advance). Concessions £16 (again reduced to £14)
Kings Lynn seats are £23 (£26 for 'Premier' seating). Concessions £21. General admission is £21 and £19.

[SwalePie]

That graphic shared by Ollie Bayliss was somewhat misleading, as was pointed out by fans of many clubs at the time. IIRC it used the most expensive season ticket on sale at each club and didn't take into account things like early bird discounts etc.

[Killerkline]

And does anybody seriously believe L2 clubs were bringing an average of 2,000 extra fans to ML than NL clubs??????

No. But has Laddo suggested, factoring in Mansfield, Lincoln, Coventry and the reduced pricing games would account for a very large portion.

[upthemaggies]

That graphic shared by Ollie Bayliss was somewhat misleading, as was pointed out by fans of many clubs at the time. IIRC it used the most expensive season ticket on sale at each club and didn't take into account things like early bird discounts etc.

Presumably most or even all clubs do offers. All things weighed up, that graphic probably did provide a general idea of who's charging the most and who's charging the least. It's to be expected that Notts would be charging among the highest prices having dropped from tier 3 to tier 5 in four years, but also - seeing we've had the highest average gate in the league (2019/20) paying among the highest prices - I'd have also expected Notts to be properly challenging for top spot. Doesn't always work out that way due to mismanagement. The chief crime of the Reedtz bros obviously sticking with a dud manager. Remains to be seen if they've replaced him with somebody significantly better enough to make a difference.

Current 5th tier PPG
Ardley 1.70
Burchnall 1.63