O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[cher1]

Maybe they think the vaccine hasn't been tested properly and has been rushed through. Maybe they think that the side effects of the Vaccine have been hidden from the public to suit their gamble of pushing the untested vaccine on them !?.

Didn't the government retract the law that means any companies involved with the creation of the vaccine cannot be sued for any damages caused by its use ?

There's is a rumour that one hidden side effect is inflammation of the heart ( I'm not sure how plausible or true ) and I know 3 people who have had heart attack's that the doctors cannot identify what caused it , they could see no reason for them having one (Is this normal?)
mmmmmm....food for thought possibly

It isn't a rumor, myocarditis is a rare side effect of the vaccine. It's almost always mild or moderate and treatable. It's different from a heart attack though.

The vaccine isn't untested. Yes, companies have been indemnified against legal action, but the government will pay out instead under a vaccine damage payment programme that was already in place (although the amount of payment is £120k, which doesnt seem much).

[PedroTheFisherman66]

It isn't a rumor, myocarditis is a rare side effect of the vaccine. It's almost always mild or moderate and treatable. It's different from a heart attack though.

The vaccine isn't untested. Yes, companies have been indemnified against legal action, but the government will pay out instead under a vaccine damage payment programme that was already in place (although the amount of payment is £120k, which doesnt seem much).

Is it normal for people to have heart attacks where the doctors cant find a reason for it to happen ,? I'm not sure if this is a normal occurrence or not

[tied_up_in_notts]

[lunaspie]

Bugger, I wasn't going to reply again. Sorry everyone

I did warn you a couple of days ago.

[SwalePie]

[BanjoPie]

Is there anybody else here this ignorant of the potential side effects? I can appreciate that people are relatively in the dark due to the bombardment of propaganda, but Jesus, this is on another level.

I believe you are the ignorant one here!

[keldsyke]

Well they already have total control, compliance by scarring the sht out of the populations, haven't read it, was mentioned in a JR podcast I was listening to the other day

As I’ve said before, this compliance crap that the ‘I’m entitled brigade’ are pushing is complete *******s, in the National/ World crissises of two world wars over the last 100 years shows that men and women were conscripted to go to war, no choice with many lives lost and no say in it, but they knew what was right.

We’ve come along way since then as we shot ‘the I’m entitled / I’m offended’ by firing squad for not complying in the first world war, in the second there was a choice if you didn’t want to you worked in the mines so ‘compliance’ has been around longer than they want people to think. Perhaps try and think that you’re doing something to protect others around you rather than defending your right to selfishly not to protect yourselves and others.

[kill_the_drum]

I’m double jabbed and have been pro-vax.
However, recently I’ve started researching for myself rather than just accepting what is being constantly rammed down my throat. There’s plenty of medical professionals that are against the vaccine, they’re just constantly shut down and get zero air time. The main issue they have isn’t that the vax is altering our DNA, or anything wacky, just that the true side effects aren’t known but the numbers of younger people suffering heart problems is much greater than what’s being reported. The argument to that is every product comes with a risk, but that is exactly there argument. If you’re going to take paracetamol, the risks, however small, are detailed. You’re free to read them and then free to decide whether you take the paracetamol. However, with the vaccine these side effects are hugely downplayed and the pressure to have it is enormous.
I’m really not a conspiracy theorist or anything like that, and I have no agenda. But from what I’m starting to read, there’s a real plausible other reason we’re all being bullied into taking a vaccine….Profit!
If anyone has 3 hours spare. Listen to Joe Rogans podcast with Peter McCullough, recorded this week.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

All medical treatments will have reactions and side effects. These current vaccines have a variety that range from mild and common (local injection site soreness, cold/flu type symptoms) to very rare but dangerous (myocarditis, Guillian Barre Syndrome, blood clots). It is up to each individual to make an informed decision as to whether they want to take the risk of disease or risk of vaccine side effects. This is why I find Vaccine Mandates horrific, if there was no risk from the vaccine, then perhaps I'd be less concerned but there are plenty of risks from this vaccine, although small, there are still risks! Forcing people either through legislation or public shaming is totally and utterly unethical.

I personally weighed up the risks and am fully vaccinated, but if someone says to me that the risks for them outweigh the benefits (and that is actually a case here, see why the AZ jab was not offered to the under 40s!) then as long as it's informed and they don't go on about lizard people or some weird stuff, I respect their decision and applaud their courage. A young, fit professional athlete probably has more to risk having the vaccine than getting Covid hence why take up is so low in those demographics but this is not a simple black and white decision that everyone seems to think is the case

[drillerpie]

All medical treatments will have reactions and side effects. These current vaccines have a variety that range from mild and common (local injection site soreness, cold/flu type symptoms) to very rare but dangerous (myocarditis, Guillian Barre Syndrome, blood clots). It is up to each individual to make an informed decision as to whether they want to take the risk of disease or risk of vaccine side effects. This is why I find Vaccine Mandates horrific, if there was no risk from the vaccine, then perhaps I'd be less concerned but there are plenty of risks from this vaccine, although small, there are still risks! Forcing people either through legislation or public shaming is totally and utterly unethical.

I personally weighed up the risks and am fully vaccinated, but if someone says to me that the risks for them outweigh the benefits (and that is actually a case here, see why the AZ jab was not offered to the under 40s!) then as long as it's informed and they don't go on about lizard people or some weird stuff, I respect their decision and applaud their courage. A young, fit professional athlete probably has more to risk having the vaccine than getting Covid hence why take up is so low in those demographics but this is not a simple black and white decision that everyone seems to think is the case

Pretty much sums up my position too.