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Thread: Ardley an improvement

  1. #71
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    That's not actually true , just a fanboy's opinion#void. But why let the truth get in the way of an obsession #rentfree

    For the 2 people that care and the 2 who used to care.

    I actually joined NCM in March 2003

    Most prominent time would definitely have been 2003-2005/06 and then the current period.

    My activity tends to be linked to the amount of stuff that deserves to be ridiculed and that tends to increase hugely in the times we struggle. When folks wanted Ardley sacked when there was nobody to sack him, and after the playoff final defeat. Then at the start of the next season. Basically constantly#agenda. My favourite was the "he's more likely to get us relegated than promoted from the National League" and "more likely be in National North with him in charge" and the like. We finished 3rd and he was 5th I believe when sacked but again let's not let facts get in the way lol.

    I just wanted to have a full second season at this level which I said many times.

    I repeatedly said I wouldn't have sacked him until end of that season but wasn't upset when they did, I understood it.

    Plus more importantly I didn't have anyone lined up, I didn't know the owners choice had become available at a time when our form dipped. They had more info to make an informed decision.

    Had anybody on here heard of Ian Burchnall? I hadn't and I didn't see any rumours from NCM sauces.

    It is also influenced by travel, and which country I was in. Oh and there was an excellent alternative in more recent years which I tended to post on far more than NCM. But always an avid reader for entertainment reasons. So thank you, you know who you are#pitchforks

    One thing Elite almost got right was regarding the #burchnallbandwagon. Yes I believe I was the first to use the phase so if you want to say I created it so be it. But I'm not the driver. I was proud and delighted that so many well known people on here were sat front row on the bandwagon from those early days just over a year ago. It was a collective for sure and I'm happy to still be on it.

    The bandwagon set off and passed by as other well known people sat on the fence with their weak lemon drinks and cheese sandwich in hand waiting to see what happened first then commenting once they had seen enough with their own eyes (not TV or stream naturally lol). Then once the bandwagon hit a few bumps in the road which is often the case they could then rewrite history and claim they made big statements and predictions when we know they didn't.

    Others made huge brave predictions that the latest Notts manager, the 126th since I've been born wouldn't succeed but at least they made a prediction#viva

    There of course is a more inaccurate and comprehensive version of events by Elite and Pedro, which I believe is available in both paperback and on Kindle from either Amazon or on the original handbags thread#fanboys

    That 2018/19 season and all the Notts people who failed from owner to all 3 managers to the players have a lot to answer for.

    But at least a book and a designated thread came out of it

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    Unless that is the end, handbags please gents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    That's not actually true , just a fanboy's opinion#void. But why let the truth get in the way of an obsession #rentfree

    For the 2 people that care and the 2 who used to care.

    I actually joined NCM in March 2003

    Most prominent time would definitely have been 2003-2005/06 and then the current period.

    My activity tends to be linked to the amount of stuff that deserves to be ridiculed and that tends to increase hugely in the times we struggle. When folks wanted Ardley sacked when there was nobody to sack him, and after the playoff final defeat. Then at the start of the next season. Basically constantly#agenda. My favourite was the "he's more likely to get us relegated than promoted from the National League" and "more likely be in National North with him in charge" and the like. We finished 3rd and he was 5th I believe when sacked but again let's not let facts get in the way lol.

    I just wanted to have a full second season at this level which I said many times.

    I repeatedly said I wouldn't have sacked him until end of that season but wasn't upset when they did, I understood it.

    Plus more importantly I didn't have anyone lined up, I didn't know the owners choice had become available at a time when our form dipped. They had more info to make an informed decision.

    Had anybody on here heard of Ian Burchnall? I hadn't and I didn't see any rumours from NCM sauces.

    It is also influenced by travel, and which country I was in. Oh and there was an excellent alternative in more recent years which I tended to post on far more than NCM. But always an avid reader for entertainment reasons. So thank you, you know who you are#pitchforks

    One thing Elite almost got right was regarding the #burchnallbandwagon. Yes I believe I was the first to use the phase so if you want to say I created it so be it. But I'm not the driver. I was proud and delighted that so many well known people on here were sat front row on the bandwagon from those early days just over a year ago. It was a collective for sure and I'm happy to still be on it.

    The bandwagon set off and passed by as other well known people sat on the fence with their weak lemon drinks and cheese sandwich in hand waiting to see what happened first then commenting once they had seen enough with their own eyes (not TV or stream naturally lol). Then once the bandwagon hit a few bumps in the road which is often the case they could then rewrite history and claim they made big statements and predictions when we know they didn't.

    Others made huge brave predictions that the latest Notts manager, the 126th since I've been born wouldn't succeed but at least they made a prediction#viva

    There of course is a more inaccurate and comprehensive version of events by Elite and Pedro, which I believe is available in both paperback and on Kindle from either Amazon or on the original handbags thread#fanboys

    That 2018/19 season and all the Notts people who failed from owner to all 3 managers to the players have a lot to answer for.

    But at least a book and a designated thread came out of it
    Apologies to everyone for instigating this boring and deluded rant.

    #rattled. Feel free to add an emoji if you so desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    Unless that is the end, handbags please gents.
    Sorry Swale, I type quite slowly and then check for errors.

    Noted otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Sorry Swale, I type quite slowly and then check for errors.

    Noted otherwise.
    Said in the same vein of contrition as the PM

    How many times are you going to "break the rule" then promise not to do it again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Said in the same vein of contrition as the PM

    How many times are you going to "break the rule" then promise not to do it again?
    I'll apologise when you apologise for calling 28 posters on here thieves.

    Although any apology either way doesn't really belong on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Don_ORiordan View Post
    NA did sign 11 of them.

    So he must have thought there was some advantage to having more players at the club. Sol didn’t have that option. And yet did a lot better.

    And we are still waiting an answer from Matt (who may also be Chicken Balti Pie) on where he expected us to finish? As he thinks we would have over achieved to finish 18th?
    Not read it since, chicken balti pie, no idea what you’re on about. Having 30 plus pros in the club is only going to cause massive problems, half of them getting no game time and bitching, it’s difficult to set up training and then a chairman publicly within the club saying he wants the first manager back he started the sh1t show with who lost all 5 at the start or something like that. Who was any good in that squad, who was at mid L2 level or above when you saw them actually play after the bookies backed them as champions? Hemmings maybe? Dennis was pretty poor, Enzio was poor and he’s not getting game time mow in L2, Vaughan a disaster and they were our 4 markee signings and the rest have done very little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I would say 18th would have been par for the course that season even with the benefit of hindsight. If we had stuck with either Nolan or Kewell, 18th place would probably have been my predicted finishing position. Instead the manager we stuck with was Ardley, and he took us into non-league. It's been done to death on here what might or might not have happened regarding the three managers we had that season, but what definitely did happen is that the manager who had far more games than the other two failed big time. Coincidentally, that's when laddo went from being a very occasional poster on here to being the main poster on here. He repeatedly ridiculed anyone who said Ardley should go, but when he did go laddo agreed with the owner's decision and took the driving seat on the Burchnall bandwagon.

    The Burchnall bandwagon could still reach its destination, I just hope the driver has a good satnav.
    On ardleys PPG for the season we would have stayed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt_magpie View Post
    On ardleys PPG for the season we would have stayed up
    If you want to play that game, Ardley's PPG that season was lower than Kewell's PPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    If you want to play that game, Ardley's PPG that season was lower than Kewell's PPG.
    Well it’s not a game is it, he had a substantial amount of games and that ppg would have kept us up. It’s been done to death but it’s no coincidence that the season with hardy at the wheel and a bloated squad was Ardleys worse. 6 years at the dons, kept them in L2 when he joined and they looked in trouble, got them promoted and kept them in L1. First season in NL with us I would class as very good considering the threadbare squad at the first couple of months with a wealth of games, average 2nd season and very good at moors this season.

    Kewell has done absolutely nothing since, he was awful at Barnet.

    Nolan plummeted after December in the play off season, assembled an awful squad the following season and culminated in him coming on TV from his home the day after his sacking looking like he’d been heavily drinking or mentally was broken which I’ve never seen another manager do. Since then he has either seen the better career path as part of a back room staff or maybe no opportunities as a No1?

    Neither of them two convince me based on that they would have done any better, but it’s all opinions we are all entitled to and we will never know.

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