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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    The guidelines are being upheld in Lineker's case because he broke them. For some reason he appears to think they don't apply to him, he must think he's bigger than the BBC, maybe he thinks he runs the BBC and can do as he pleases ?

    Interesting information about Laura Kuenssberg, who incidentally has been sanctioned by the BBC for breaking their guidelines, something to do with a story about Corbyn I think, and her being a member of the Conservative Party. It's news to me, so could you tell me which branch of the Tory Party she is a member of, and for which constituency she was a prospective parliamentary candidate ?
    She "broke" a false story that a Labour "activist" had assaulted a Tory MP in or around a hospital. It was tripe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    If everyone who works for the BBC has to be impartial on the political front, then Kuenssberg appearance as a speaker at the conservative conference, she should be excluded from any political debate.

    But my point initially was that anyone should have the right to state their private views on their own social media account without any interference from their employer that is their human right.

    As for referencing Keunssberg's conservative party status, I do not have the will nor inclination to research her history. She is just one of the BBC's journalists who appear to favour the tory party.
    I'm not asking you to do any research VC, you said she is a member of the Conservative Party and was a prospective Conservative candidate, so you must know this. But I can find no evidence of this whatsoever, anywhere, so I feel it is reasonable to ask, how do you know this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I'm not asking you to do any research VC, you said she is a member of the Conservative Party and was a prospective Conservative candidate, so you must know this. But I can find no evidence of this whatsoever, anywhere, so I feel it is reasonable to ask, how do you know this ?
    Sinkov, I appeared to remember reading that Kuenssberg was hoping to stand as a conservative candidate, it is entirely possible I was wrong. But I have no wish to carry out research into her political history.

    The point I was trying to make was the no employer should interfere with an employees freedom of speech when using their own social media account.

    At the prospect of being called Woke or a Lefty, I will say that in my opinion the current conservative party does appear to have a number of very right wing members, who will use any means possible to detract from the exceptional poor state their tenure has left this great county in and Lineker has every right to speak his mind.

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    I suspect VC that, like BT, you believe everything you read in the Guardian. Keunssberg is not a member of the Conservative party, never has been, nor has she stood as a prospective candidate for them. You can be certain that if she had any connection to the Tories she would not have lasted long at the BBC, never mind the 20 odd years she has been with them. But never mind Laura, she has nothing to do with this, except that like every other BBC employee, except Lineker, she keeps her political views out of the public arena, as required by her employer's guidelines.

    You mention the government again, but this has little to do with them, disquiet about Lineker's activities has been circulating for some time, and the disquiet was not emanating from the Tories but other BBC employees who were abiding by the guidelines and were wanting to know why they didn't seem to apply to Lineker. There are many politically engaged people who have been employed by the BBC, Marr, Robinson, Maitliss, dozens of others, but they have all managed to cope with the guidelines and keep their own political leanings out of the public domain, or when like Maitliss they've overstepped the mark, they've been sanctioned. But, like Boris, Lineker thinks the rules don't apply to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I suspect VC that, like BT, you believe everything you read in the Guardian. Keunssberg is not a member of the Conservative party, never has been, nor has she stood as a prospective candidate for them. You can be certain that if she had any connection to the Tories she would not have lasted long at the BBC, never mind the 20 odd years she has been with them. But never mind Laura, she has nothing to do with this, except that like every other BBC employee, except Lineker, she keeps her political views out of the public arena, as required by her employer's guidelines.

    You mention the government again, but this has little to do with them, disquiet about Lineker's activities has been circulating for some time, and the disquiet was not emanating from the Tories but other BBC employees who were abiding by the guidelines and were wanting to know why they didn't seem to apply to Lineker. There are many politically engaged people who have been employed by the BBC, Marr, Robinson, Maitliss, dozens of others, but they have all managed to cope with the guidelines and keep their own political leanings out of the public domain, or when like Maitliss they've overstepped the mark, they've been sanctioned. But, like Boris, Lineker thinks the rules don't apply to him.
    Just to be clear I do not read the Guardian, also I do not support any political party.

    However, I can not believe that no one in the government has not spoken to the BBC's director general on the subject since several ministers have voiced their opinion on the subject, which they are quite within their rights to do so.

    Reading a quote from Greg Dyke, who was himself a former BBC director general, it is only news and current affairs employees that have to abide by the impartiality clause.

    It may be, but I have no proof of this, but has the current BBCs director general been leaned on to suppress free speech amongst employees of the BBC on their private social media accounts.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I suspect VC that, like BT, you believe everything you read in the Guardian. Keunssberg is not a member of the Conservative party, never has been, nor has she stood as a prospective candidate for them. You can be certain that if she had any connection to the Tories she would not have lasted long at the BBC, never mind the 20 odd years she has been with them. But never mind Laura, she has nothing to do with this, except that like every other BBC employee, except Lineker, she keeps her political views out of the public arena, as required by her employer's guidelines.

    You mention the government again, but this has little to do with them, disquiet about Lineker's activities has been circulating for some time, and the disquiet was not emanating from the Tories but other BBC employees who were abiding by the guidelines and were wanting to know why they didn't seem to apply to Lineker. There are many politically engaged people who have been employed by the BBC, Marr, Robinson, Maitliss, dozens of others, but they have all managed to cope with the guidelines and keep their own political leanings out of the public domain, or when like Maitliss they've overstepped the mark, they've been sanctioned. But, like Boris, Lineker thinks the rules don't apply to him.
    You really do make me giggle at times sinkov. Lineker has no covenant in his contract to ban him from saying whatever he likes on social media.

    This furore is Tory driven, it really is your dead cat at work. A diversion from their utter madness.

    Silly Braverman is married to a Jew and is getting all wound up about the Holocaust.

    Lineker never once mentioned a Jew, he never mentioned the Holocaust, he just said what Braverman is doing is reminiscent of Germany in the 1930s.

    Some folk really do need to get real.

    "The row over impartiality has been exacerbated by the BBC’s chairman, Richard Sharp, after a committee of MPs found he made “significant errors of judgement” by failing to declare his role in facilitating an £800,000 loan for Boris Johnson weeks before the then-prime minister recommended him for the role."

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...box=1678551053

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    Hypocrisy at the BBC. Why is a man who is reported to have donated £400k to the Conservative party still the chairman of the BBC? Answers on a postcard please.

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