Sturgeonland

[mondo_notion]

These protestors at the weekly FM Questions. Could they not just extend the question time by say 15/30 minutes and let these groups or individuals let off some steam on the understanding that they fu ck off after it.

Might even be better to let the protestors speak to parliament as they may actually have things to say of more relevance than the politicians have to say.

What were they shouting? Any decent heckles?

[TheDeeDon]

What were they shouting? Any decent heckles?

I would never watch it. Just been reading about recently and happened five separate times today

I think a weekly session of being able to shout, protest or even ask questions to our erected members would be a good thing.

[57vintage]

I would never watch it. Just been reading about recently and happened five separate times today

I think a weekly session of being able to shout, protest or even ask questions to our erected members would be a good thing.

There’s a daily Two Minutes Hate sponsored by The Party in Orwell’s 1984, where all citizens are expected to switch on their telescreens and scream cathartic abuse at the images show of those fûckers from Oceania, or the hated Eastasia scum, depending on which Eurasia happens to be at war with that particular week.

To be honest, I was quite content slashing on images and footage of McCoist, Hateley etc when they beamed them into the inset screens of the Paramount Bar urinals, timing the washing of hands to allow a farewell green phlegm trachea missile a victim in Thatcher and Tebbit as their cadaverous images provided worthy targets.

We had to make our own entertainment in those days.

[57vintage]

I arrived back in town last night.

The car had been parked all day in the College Street car park. I took a ticket from the machine to raise the barrier at 0655.

The machines for payment were all out if order.

As one needs a validated paid ticket to raise the exit barrier.

I pressed the button to activate talkback to an advisor.

“All machines are inoperative. The barrier will lift when you approach it. The problem has arisen because Scotrail has forgotten to renew its licence”.

A day in the job, and Kevin’s fûcked up already.*

It saved me six quid though.

*I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Mason89]

I’m starting to think half the country want them to fail. Whether people vote for them or not, surely it’s in all out interests to see them do well?

There’s clearly a lack of talent in the SNP but f*ck me, it’s 100x worse on the opposition benches/comfy seats. They’re just professional grievance monkeys. All day every day it’s ‘this is shyte’ ‘it’s time for change’…not once have I heard anything from them to actually improve things. The thought of that dolls heed Paul Sweeney in a position of authority gives me the fear.

[57vintage]

Just having a laugh at the inevitable outcome of putting up loyalist lackeys bereft of brains for election and the predictable, but negative outcomes. It’s part of the black humour that has a long tradition, along with distrust of hübris, boasting, and self-aggrandisement, key characteristics of both previous FMs, despite their records of failure.

For balance, I’m laughing and grimacing alternately at the Tories fûcking things up at UK level, and cheering on Jeremy Corbyn as he gives Keith* a daily pasting. “Wheesht for schadenfreudian cynicism”.

*everyone is at the moment 6-2 at home by Forres last week FFS

[TheDeeDon]

I’m starting to think half the country want them to fail. Whether people vote for them or not, surely it’s in all out interests to see them do well?

There’s clearly a lack of talent in the SNP but f*ck me, it’s 100x worse on the opposition benches/comfy seats. They’re just professional grievance monkeys. All day every day it’s ‘this is shyte’ ‘it’s time for change’…not once have I heard anything from them to actually improve things. The thought of that dolls heed Paul Sweeney in a position of authority gives me the fear.

They are the party in charge and for that they must be held accountable.

I do agree folk go OTT with the SNP, but you have to factor in the fact they are a party that want to split the union and the main opposition in Edinburgh and our press are mainly unionist, so has to be expected.

What I would like emphasized more up here is that Edinburgh has around 27% of powers relating to Scotland as a whole, meaning over 70% of powers that impact our lives are still residing in London.

Our parliament is still relatively young in the grand scheme of things and in my opinion, has achieved quite a lot in its time and not all down to the SNP. I still believe they have achieved quite a bit all things considered.

I would also argue that we will never see the full benefit of a parliament up here until we separate from the union giving us the autonomy to determine our own way forward. Many on here will sneer that it only gives them the chance to fu ck it up more, which may well be the case, but we will never know until such times.

In the meantime, just bow to our Tory masters and be grateful we are still part of the greatest empire on earth!

[Donanddusted]

I would also argue that we will never see the full benefit of a parliament up here until we separate from the union giving us the autonomy to determine our own way forward. Many on here will sneer that it only gives them the chance to fu ck it up more, which may well be the case, but we will never know until such times.

That's it in a nutshell.

Always conveniently forgotten by the press and unionists alike.

[57vintage]

That's it in a nutshell.

Always conveniently forgotten by the press and unionists alike.

I see the logic of that, but hark back to Salmond’s view, probably when he was still in opposition, that devolution had to be seen to be working the people before independence could be floated seriously.

It is to a certain extent in that research has shown that it’s the level of government that most people look to first to lead and protect them.

In reality, it’s stalled, with the big-ticket items no further forward (with several mitigating external reasons) than they were 25 years ago.

I think the people that have the ability to visualise and then get the socket set out to make the changes, even within the 1999 Act’s strictures, give political office a bodyswerve, as they realise that radical action would be too much for a canny Parliament and a docile electorate.

I remain disenfranchised, and have come to terms with the fact that I’m going to have to live with it.

[TheDeeDon]

I see the logic of that, but hark back to Salmond’s view, probably when he was still in opposition, that devolution had to be seen to be working the people before independence could be floated seriously.

It is to a certain extent in that research has shown that it’s the level of government that most people look to first to lead and protect them.

In reality, it’s stalled, with the big-ticket items no further forward (with several mitigating external reasons) than they were 25 years ago.

I think the people that have the ability to visualise and then get the socket set out to make the changes, even within the 1999 Act’s strictures, give political office a bodyswerve, as they realise that radical action would be too much for a canny Parliament and a docile electorate.

I remain disenfranchised, and have come to terms with the fact that I’m going to have to live with it.

I do think devolution has worked though. I think we are a far more confident nation now than we were before devolution and that opinion has got nothing to do with the political side of it.

Devolution was always going to lead to a point where people question the need to remain in the union. I just don't think anyone thought thought it would be so quickly.

Before we question if Devolution has worked, I think people are more inclined to ask if the union is still working for us and for me at least, that is a big no.

As I keep saying, there is a generation coming through that have been brought up on nothing but the Scottish parliament and see Westminister as nothing more than a pantomime act. They will lead us to seperation in the not so distant future.