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Love it too.Originally Posted by queenslandpie
Way back in early 2000 I went to my one and only Collingwood game at the famous MCG, bought the stubby holder and learnt the words and never forgotten them to this day.
Oh and what a season to date for the Maggies down under.
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My only claim to the Magpies down under is that my wife bought me a black and white scarf with Magpies written in every other panel thinking it was a Notts scarf. I checked and it was a scarf someone had purchased in Australia. I make my daughters partner wear to Notts games when they visit!
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I have the same scarf - it’s Collingwood. Along with a shirt, club tie and lapel badge, all bought for me by a girl I met down-under when I travelled there for a cousins wedding many many years ago.
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As I often shout out in the kop when a rendition of the Wheelbarrow song finishes - “It’s a crap song, but it’s our crap song”.
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Milton of Keynes?
I hate TLAs.
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dripping with irony, idiosyncratic, miserable, and doomladen as hell, the Wheelbarrow Song might be the Ultimate lower league club fan song, imo. I bet it would beat mull of f'kintyre in a cage fight - probably by sulking
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I's funny to think that one person will be responsible for starting the whole Wheelbarrow thing off and who knows what what was going through his mind at the time, but seeing that we were 2-0 down when he started it with Notts seemingly surrendering a 2nd promotion from pole position in three seasons, he probably was at least subconsciously coming up with that lyric from the mindset of being stuck in the lower league's forever. Which is what it felt like at the time. 5 years!!! We will now reach at least 30.
Another club could have taken that tune and sung it back at us and killed it, much like what happened to Sunderland with their "Daydream Believer" tune which got turned into something nasty. Stags for example could have turned the "Wheelbarrow" into "They are the Notts Counnnnnty, they're so full of ****" on repeat, other clubs then pick up on it, sing at us, sing it at other clubs and then it becomes generic as a hate song. The reason nobody has done that is probably because it's already a negative and other clubs don't take it as threatening or intimidating, just something to laugh at.
When it was relevant, the response to Liverpool's YNWA was "sign on, sign on, with pen in your hand, and you'll never work again" which did upset them, but then Hillsborough happened and they were able to reclaim it as they're own and most fans then tended to respect the new meaning behind it.
If we had a proper rivalry with Fword again then it would be an idea to come up with an alternate disparaging lyric to MoK and give it to them with both barrels, also letting your Derby and Leicester mates know about it and making it go viral, same with YLTLF, make them self conscious about singing their own anthem. The Sun Tzu method of using the enemies' own strength against them.
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What about as our version of MoK
Sh*tty Ground oh Red Dogs play over the Trent
My desire is never to go there oh Sh*tty Ground
Just a thought.
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Starting and ending it on "Sh*tty Ground" is a given.
For it to be effective though it's got to be about them failing in some way, rather than us just not wanting to go there, implying we're scared or intimidated by the place.
The Trent could be linked with drowning, a metaphor for going down, going under. So I think something about either the club or their fans disappearing into the Trent would be much more effective.
If we ever had a rivalry with them again then it will almost certainly be because they've been relegated and are in a slump, so it would land in those circumstances much better than it would in the current climate.
Sh*tty Ground, you r*d dogs drown-ing in-the Trent
My desire, is always to s*it here
Oh Sh*tty Ground
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"Sign on" has been a pretty much semi-constant for opposition fans to sing when playing Everton for about as long as I can remember. Even though... Everton fans don't sing that YNWA. Woody will have a better idea of whether it's still sung at Liverpool fans, but I suspect it is.
It's probably sung less often than it used to be, but it's now more irritating when it does happen. Feels like something's changed... perhaps football songs have got a little more civil, I don't know. Singing songs celebrating poverty and deliberate government neglect feels a bit... inappropriate... these days.
Everton fans see it as a small-time or lazy/hack thing to sing. Any fans going it immediately drop in their estimation. It's particularly irritating when it's sung by fans from teams from areas that also have their share of deprivation/government abandonment past and present. Forest fans were singing it this season, having presumably not got the memo.
It's funny that people see the Wheelbarrow song as negative or defeatist or pessimistic... I'll defer to people who've been watching much longer than me, but that's never the way it's come across to me. It sounds more celebratory... seems that it gets sung when things are going well... and the final choruses lift any negativity. It's really quite something to hear the Wheelbarrow in full voice after we've just got two-nil up to make the game all but safe, or in advance of big games. Maybe I'm just easily impressed, or maybe some people underestimate what you've got there.
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