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Thread: Match ratings v Sutton (home)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmiffyPie View Post
    Probably told JOB to give it all for 45 mins (and he did, best I've seen him play) and JB would come on for him. He also probably thought JB might give his all for the time he had on the pitch (and he didn't, another average side to side performance).
    Bostock is just not interested. He has been crap for most of the season, yet we still think he is some sort of superstar.. He needs dropping altogether. What he did last season is long gone... Time for the guy from Crew to step up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Colin Slater tended to get piled on when things were going badly. Probably more than just a co-incidence that after all this time (a season and a half since he's been doing this regularly) people are suddenly giving Bracegirdle both barrels the day after one of the most embarrassing defeats we've ever seen at this level. I realise some have been unhappy with him since day 1, but commentators always seem to get the most stick when we're cr@p.
    I don't mind Bracegirdle's whimsical style to be honest, but I do think the club benefitted from the Charlie Slater era, in terms of attracting a younger audience. One criticism I had of Colin Slater in his later days was that it felt like an exclusive club for over 60's sitting next to the wireless, whereas the Forest commentators were more dynamic. We don't want an image as a club for old codgers sat at home in their armchairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmiffyPie View Post
    Probably told JOB to give it all for 45 mins (and he did, best I've seen him play) and JB would come on for him. He also probably thought JB might give his all for the time he had on the pitch (and he didn't, another average side to side performance).
    Agree. When JB first arrived I couldn't see what the fuss was about until LW pushed Palmer further back and Bostock further forward. Not all the time, but when that was the case it gave JB less license to muck (I think I've spelt that correctly) about. The deeper he goes the less urgent he becomes which also highlights the occasional carelessness.

    On Baldwin, there's no doubt that he screwed up and the alleged broadside to the kop is unforgiveable, but a player like him (good footballer, decent defender, but crucially always has a mistake in him) needs someone alongside at least to be in a position to rescue. Last night he was isolated, running sideways, had to go backwards because forwards was blocked, and was on his wrong foot; cue cock up. Wrong but not entirely unpredictable. As many others have said, there is a reason why someone with his natural ability isn't playing at a higher level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0ufMk3 View Post
    Agree. When JB first arrived I couldn't see what the fuss was about until LW pushed Palmer further back and Bostock further forward. Not all the time, but when that was the case it gave JB less license to muck (I think I've spelt that correctly) about. The deeper he goes the less urgent he becomes which also highlights the occasional carelessness.
    Couldn't agree more. Bostock is a very talented footballer, hence why he was once courted by Barcelona, but if he has a future in the team it has to be further up the pitch. His lack of defensive awareness and defensive attributes make him a liability as a deep-lying playmaker at this level. He dwells on the ball too long, and teams set traps and catch him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0ufMk3 View Post
    Agree. When JB first arrived I couldn't see what the fuss was about until LW pushed Palmer further back and Bostock further forward. Not all the time, but when that was the case it gave JB less license to muck (I think I've spelt that correctly) about. The deeper he goes the less urgent he becomes which also highlights the occasional carelessness.

    On Baldwin, there's no doubt that he screwed up and the alleged broadside to the kop is unforgiveable, but a player like him (good footballer, decent defender, but crucially always has a mistake in him) needs someone alongside at least to be in a position to rescue. Last night he was isolated, running sideways, had to go backwards because forwards was blocked, and was on his wrong foot; cue cock up. Wrong but not entirely unpredictable. As many others have said, there is a reason why someone with his natural ability isn't playing at a higher level.
    For the backpass he was running forwards and had time to play it with either foot or take another touch. I think he played with right foot anyway but would need to see the replay to confirm. He could have also played it square to our defenders running back. He just made a mistake, that's all there is to it really.

    About kicking the ball and getting into a confrontation with the Kop, the optics are really bad and it is not a good thing, but he was pissed off because he wanted to start another attack and the ball ended up going for a corner to them. He was probably also pissed off about his mistake knowing he contributed to losing a match we should've won.

    Not to justify what he did but at least he was angry about losing. I'd rather that than see players going through the motions not caring if we win or lose. Obviously Baldwin and all the players need to channel any anger they have into their performances rather than outbursts at our fans, but I am pleased that he was pissed off.

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    Aden Baldwin has had a professional career of nearly 9 years.
    Here is a list of the clubs he has played for and the heights he has achieved.
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aden...spieler/384264
    He quite clearly is playing at his absolute limits and is not good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1955pie View Post
    Aden Baldwin has had a professional career of nearly 9 years.
    Here is a list of the clubs he has played for and the heights he has achieved.
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aden...spieler/384264
    He quite clearly is playing at his absolute limits and is not good enough.
    Got to agree, a liability in to many matches, we need better

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    Bostock is just not interested. He has been crap for most of the season, yet we still think he is some sort of superstar.. He needs dropping altogether. What he did last season is long gone... Time for the guy from Crew to step up..
    He was fantastic last season, for which we will be forever grateful, but lately he's gone from average to poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1955pie View Post
    Aden Baldwin has had a professional career of nearly 9 years.
    Here is a list of the clubs he has played for and the heights he has achieved.
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aden...spieler/384264
    He quite clearly is playing at his absolute limits and is not good enough.
    Cor blimey that profile picture doesn't do him a lot of favours does it. If he can't look straight its not a surprise he booted the ball into the kop. But yes it would be fair to say he is at his absolute limits. That back pass this week was beyond shocking, you could make a very comedic you tube video out of him and Camerons errors this season I am afraid to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastwoodmagpie View Post
    Got to agree, a liability in to many matches, we need better
    Unfortunately at the moment we haven’t got better.

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