New England Manager

[Albionic68]

I do like Graham Potter. Intelligent, articulate, analytical and tactically astute. Well remember the video explaining his tactics in European competition when managing in Scandinavia.

The biggest question for the FA would be 'do we have a defensive unit technically proficient and confident enough to build from the back while being pressed by the opposition at international level?' .

If the answer is yes he gets the gig. If the answer is no then Lee Carsley will most likely take a call. You never know, they may even compliment each other as a managerial pairing.

The questions for supporters would be 'do you want a manager who asks his defenders to piss about with the ball at the back before trying to play around and through the opposition and do you think he'll have enough time on the grass with the players to get his ideas across?' .

If your answer is yes to both questions you're going to be very happy if he gets the gig. If it's no to either you're not going to be happy if he gets the gig. And if Lee Carsley finds himself as part of the equation a number of supporters will probably have a meltdown as he'll be seen as an FA yes man even though he probably isn't.

[regis80]

Jesus Christ - I hope not! This guy would be the equivalent of Shan who was the worst appointment ever and can’t forgive the t wat for parking the bus at Vile Park. Shan and Big Dave are now at a level for a reason!

Careful Al, mention of Shan and Moore may get a reaction from Boingy 😂

[baggieal]

Careful Al, mention of Shan and Moore may get a reaction from Boingy 😂

Ha - under 18’s coach and Port Vale manager respectively for f uck sake! Carsley now being mentioned - you can’t make it up!

Sorry I forget - our Darren is a really nice guy 🤣

[westcountryvillain]

Howe the obvious choice for me, has the experience and can handle the pressure - I'm sure the FA can sort out the wages.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

Can someone please explain to me why Lee Carsley is such a terrible choice. What basis there for saying he is 'an FA yes man' or has Southgate's DNA running through him' Can only think it's ignorance of what he has done.

He has lots going for him. He's managed the U20's and the U21's (Anthony Gordon reckons him the best manager he's ever played for.) That gives him some experience of managing an international team team. Everyone else has only managed at club level. Very very different and littered with previously successful club managers that have failed with England. Revie, Taylor, Hodgson et al.

He knows plenty of the younger England players. Some have commented on how well their game developed under him.

Because he was a dour midfielder does that make him a defensive coach? Didn't apply to Howe, Mowbray or Potter. His U21 teams were renowned for playing aggressive front foot football. Having been successful with that why would he change.

Euro U21 2023. England: most goals scored; most shots; least goals conceded.

And finally he's a winner. Who else on the list is English and can say 'I'm a winner'

[baggieal]

Can someone please explain to me why Lee Carsley is such a terrible choice. What basis there for saying he is 'an FA yes man' or has Southgate's DNA running through him' Can only think it's ignorance of what he has done.

He has lots going for him. He's managed the U20's and the U21's (Anthony Gordon reckons him the best manager he's ever played for.) That gives him some experience of managing an international team team. Everyone else has only managed at club level. Very very different and littered with previously successful club managers that have failed with England. Revie, Taylor, Hodgson et al.

He knows plenty of the younger England players. Some have commented on how well their game developed under him.

Because he was a dour midfielder does that make him a defensive coach? Didn't apply to Howe, Mowbray or Potter. His U21 teams were renowned for playing aggressive front foot football. Having been successful with that why would he change.

Euro U21 2023. England: most goals scored; most shots; least goals conceded.

And finally he's a winner. Who else on the list is English and can say 'I'm a winner'

Remember Jimmy Shan? Say no more and he’s back to his level for a reason.

I would go with a foreign coach and WCV won’t like this - but I would even look at the Villa manager. What he’s achieved is remarkable in terms of champions league and playing good football. You need a fresh pair of eyes that can look beyond players like Harry Kane and play with style, creativity and flair. We have the players like Spain but too negative and frightened to lose.

Too many coaches ( Carlos included ) are like Southgate and set up not to lose with so many players behind the ball. Even Albania were more exciting to watch than England!

[mickd1961]

Can someone please explain to me why Lee Carsley is such a terrible choice. What basis there for saying he is 'an FA yes man' or has Southgate's DNA running through him' Can only think it's ignorance of what he has done.

He has lots going for him. He's managed the U20's and the U21's (Anthony Gordon reckons him the best manager he's ever played for.) That gives him some experience of managing an international team team. Everyone else has only managed at club level. Very very different and littered with previously successful club managers that have failed with England. Revie, Taylor, Hodgson et al.

He knows plenty of the younger England players. Some have commented on how well their game developed under him.

Because he was a dour midfielder does that make him a defensive coach? Didn't apply to Howe, Mowbray or Potter. His U21 teams were renowned for playing aggressive front foot football. Having been successful with that why would he change.

Euro U21 2023. England: most goals scored; most shots; least goals conceded.

And finally he's a winner. Who else on the list is English and can say 'I'm a winner'

Do you not think there’s a massive difference between managing kids and non established players compared to handling the elite, mega wealthy superstars with massive egos?

You don’t need to have been a top player to be a top player, Klopp and many others have proved that.

They’ve also proved they can handle the media, manage expectations and disappointments and that they can be the figurehead of an organisation…..Carsley has done none of the above.

If he’s a crash hot as is being suggested, why have no clubs hunted him down?

I’m not saying he’s not got a chance of being a good manager 923 but I feel you need to earn this job by having done top jobs and dealt with huge stress.

Managing England youth and under 21 is not that.

[WBA123]

Can someone please explain to me why Lee Carsley is such a terrible choice. What basis there for saying he is 'an FA yes man' or has Southgate's DNA running through him' Can only think it's ignorance of what he has done.

He has lots going for him. He's managed the U20's and the U21's (Anthony Gordon reckons him the best manager he's ever played for.) That gives him some experience of managing an international team team. Everyone else has only managed at club level. Very very different and littered with previously successful club managers that have failed with England. Revie, Taylor, Hodgson et al.

He knows plenty of the younger England players. Some have commented on how well their game developed under him.

Because he was a dour midfielder does that make him a defensive coach? Didn't apply to Howe, Mowbray or Potter. His U21 teams were renowned for playing aggressive front foot football. Having been successful with that why would he change.

Euro U21 2023. England: most goals scored; most shots; least goals conceded.

And finally he's a winner. Who else on the list is English and can say 'I'm a winner'

I kind of agree with this.

He's one of the only English manager's I can think of who hasn't failed anywhere. Howe and Potter have.

As you also mention, he knows a lot of the younger players coming through and can integrate them into the senior team. I wouldn't be against giving him a go.

[baggiematt]

International football is unusual as the manager has no time to work with the players on systems and gelling. Success is around building simple effective tactics, motivation, picking the right players and in game management.

We won’t get some of the names touted. Guardiola, Klopp and Emery won’t come and might not be good appointments.

That international experience (playing or managing) should be a critical factor.

That said I can’t see people getting behind Fat Frank. I like what I see of Carsley but think Potter would get it and be a sensible choice.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

Remember Jimmy Shan? Say no more and he’s back to his level for a reason.

I would go with a foreign coach and WCV won’t like this - but I would even look at the Villa manager. What he’s achieved is remarkable in terms of champions league and playing good football. You need a fresh pair of eyes that can look beyond players like Harry Kane and play with style, creativity and flair. We have the players like Spain but too negative and frightened to lose.

Too many coaches ( Carlos included ) are like Southgate and set up not to lose with so many players behind the ball. Even Albania were more exciting to watch than England!

Why the obsession with Jimmy Shan? He's just 1 youth team manager that's failed. Does that mean all such are doomed to fail before they start?