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Thread: Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    This biblical bull$hit is why the Jews think its OK to dispossess, plunder and murder Palestinian Arabs on the West Bank and the Democrats think it's also OK to bomb Gaza and the Lebanon.
    The example I mentioned is not Biblical but Islamic. Contempt for Jews is baked into Islamic culture and has been since beginning. I'll mention examples. The Jewish tribes were the targets of number of ghazw, or plundering expeditions, that the Prophet conducted in order to gain property and slaves to redistribute among the growing Muslim community. Two of the Prophet's wives or concubines were Jewish women taken as slaves after the Prophet ordered the death of their husbands. The first was Rayhana bint Zayd. She was a member by marriage of a Jewish tribe, the Banu Qurayza. In 627, the Prophet ordered the extermination of the Banu Qurayza. He ordered the men and boys above the age of puberty--600 to 900 Jews by different estimates--brought out to the marketplace at Medina in small groups and beheaded before his eyes. The women and children were enslaved. The Prophet took Rayhana as his concubine after her husband's execution.

    The second was Safiyya bint Huyayy, whom the Prophet took after the infamous expedition against the Jewish oases of Khaibar in 628. Safiyya's husband was the treasurer of the Banu Nadir, one of the main Jewish tribes at Khaibar. The Prophet ordered his execution (after torturing him with fire, according to the version in Ibn Ishaq, an early source--a later hadith says only that the Prophet ordered him killed). In any case, the Prophet took the dead Jew's wife, Safiyya, as his own wife. She is remembered by Muslims as among the Prophet's official wives, the "Mothers of the Believers."

    There is a chant that you have heard on the streets of the UK without understanding, unless you speak Arabic. It goes:

    Khaibar, Khaibar,
    Ya Yahud
    Jaysu Muhammad
    Sawfa Ya'ud.

    Khaibar, Khaibar!
    Oh you Jews!
    Muhammad's army will return.

    There is a reason Hamas quotes the hadith predicting that the Muslims will exterminate the Jews. From an Islamic perspective, Jews have done the unforgiveable: A despised people whom God caused the Muslims to conquer, the Jews now presume to live independently of Muslim authority and even boss over Muslims within the Dar al-Islam--the domain of Islamic rule that by dogma must aways expand and never contract. Hamas's website describes Palestine as the inalienable "waqf" (permanently held in trust) for the Muslim umma.

    This has nothing to do with conditions in Gaza. Palestinians started killing Jews in 1919-1920, when a few thousand immigrated into a country with a total population less than a million, to settle on vacant land they purchased from Arab landlords. The violence escalated from there. Look up the Hebron Massacre of 1929, where Muslims surrounded an isolated community of Jews and tore them limb from limb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I'm sure the Balfour Declaration never envisaged this carnage.
    Jesus wept, the Balfour Declaration was 107 years ago, how long do these feckers need to sort their affairs out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robus View Post
    The example I mentioned is not Biblical but Islamic. Contempt for Jews is baked into Islamic culture and has been since beginning. I'll mention examples. The Jewish tribes were the targets of number of ghazw, or plundering expeditions, that the Prophet conducted in order to gain property and slaves to redistribute among the growing Muslim community. Two of the Prophet's wives or concubines were Jewish women taken as slaves after the Prophet ordered the death of their husbands. The first was Rayhana bint Zayd. She was a member by marriage of a Jewish tribe, the Banu Qurayza. In 627, the Prophet ordered the extermination of the Banu Qurayza. He ordered the men and boys above the age of puberty--600 to 900 Jews by different estimates--brought out to the marketplace at Medina in small groups and beheaded before his eyes. The women and children were enslaved. The Prophet took Rayhana as his concubine after her husband's execution.

    The second was Safiyya bint Huyayy, whom the Prophet took after the infamous expedition against the Jewish oases of Khaibar in 628. Safiyya's husband was the treasurer of the Banu Nadir, one of the main Jewish tribes at Khaibar. The Prophet ordered his execution (after torturing him with fire, according to the version in Ibn Ishaq, an early source--a later hadith says only that the Prophet ordered him killed). In any case, the Prophet took the dead Jew's wife, Safiyya, as his own wife. She is remembered by Muslims as among the Prophet's official wives, the "Mothers of the Believers."

    There is a chant that you have heard on the streets of the UK without understanding, unless you speak Arabic. It goes:

    Khaibar, Khaibar,
    Ya Yahud
    Jaysu Muhammad
    Sawfa Ya'ud.

    Khaibar, Khaibar!
    Oh you Jews!
    Muhammad's army will return.

    There is a reason Hamas quotes the hadith predicting that the Muslims will exterminate the Jews. From an Islamic perspective, Jews have done the unforgiveable: A despised people whom God caused the Muslims to conquer, the Jews now presume to live independently of Muslim authority and even boss over Muslims within the Dar al-Islam--the domain of Islamic rule that by dogma must aways expand and never contract. Hamas's website describes Palestine as the inalienable "waqf" (permanently held in trust) for the Muslim umma.

    This has nothing to do with conditions in Gaza. Palestinians started killing Jews in 1919-1920, when a few thousand immigrated into a country with a total population less than a million, to settle on vacant land they purchased from Arab landlords. The violence escalated from there. Look up the Hebron Massacre of 1929, where Muslims surrounded an isolated community of Jews and tore them limb from limb.
    We were murdering Jews in the 12th century my mate, move along please nothing to see here.

    https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/...e-of-the-jews/

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    We were murdering Jews in the 12th century my mate, move along please nothing to see here.

    https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/...e-of-the-jews/
    We might take note that the founder of the UK's soon-to-be majority religion plundered, killed and enslaved Jews while predicting their extermination in a final Holocaust. Pay attention to who is chanting for the death of Jews on the streets of your cities; it isn't Christians nostalgic for Medieval pogroms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robus View Post
    We might take note that the founder of the UK's soon-to-be majority religion plundered, killed and enslaved Jews while predicting their extermination in a final Holocaust. Pay attention to who is chanting for the death of Jews on the streets of your cities; it isn't Christians nostalgic for Medieval pogroms.
    These dystopian visions for Great Britain from bloody foreigners is seriously starting to get on my tits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    These dystopian visions for Great Britain from bloody foreigners is seriously starting to get on my tits.
    Said without any irony at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robus View Post
    Avatar.
    As an aside Robus is that an old Beemer R1200 RT and are you still riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    These dystopian visions for Great Britain from bloody foreigners is seriously starting to get on my tits.
    Not mine mon ami, I love it when the Loony Left gets schooled and start throwing their toys out of the pram. Carry on Mr Robus, you're doing a fine job, very informative and educational posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kritichris View Post
    As an aside Robus is that an old Beemer R1200 RT and are you still riding?
    Good catch! I'm still riding. I shifted the Beemer on. Current scooter is a Harley-Davidson FLTRU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Engaging read. Cheers.

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