O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Elite_Pie]

Jenrick's an opportunist who will say whatever he thinks he needs to say to appeal to those he thinks hold the key to his next career move, which sadly is true of most politicians currently. If you're a genuine conviction politician these days you're a rare breed and you stand out like a beacon, whichever part of the political spectrum you're coming from. The true test of Kemi's convictions is only just beginning and time will tell, but I'm more optimistic about her than many of her predecessors.

I think the Tories are caught between a rock and a hard place regarding where to aim to win votes back. A lurch to the right to try and win back Reform voters will see them lose the moderates, but a move nearer the centre will send more to Reform! If the election was next week they would gain a lot of disenchanted Labour voters, but if Labour can show things are improving in 4 years time the Tories will be stuck where they are now.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I think the Tories are caught between a rock and a hard place regarding where to aim to win votes back. A lurch to the right to try and win back Reform voters will see them lose the moderates, but a move nearer the centre will send more to Reform! If the election was next week they would gain a lot of disenchanted Labour voters, but if Labour can show things are improving in 4 years time the Tories will be stuck where they are now.

Ok I'm going to get accusations of being racist but here goes..!can you imagine the right wingers voting for a black lady.?....no matter how vocal she is about immigration.?
Pedro you Racist !!!

[Med Pie]

Ok I'm going to get accusations of being racist but here goes..!can you imagine the right wingers voting for a black lady.?....no matter how vocal she is about immigration.?
Pedro you Racist !!!

Yes, you're racist,that's a serious and unpleasant accusation you make. I'm a right winger which doesn't mean I have a swastika on my forehead. I vote for policies not personalities and certainly, not based on skin colour.

If I like what I hear, she'll have my vote.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Yes, you're racist,that's a serious and unpleasant accusation you make. I'm a right winger which doesn't mean I have a swastika on my forehead. I vote for policies not personalities and certainly, not based on skin colour.

If I like what I hear, she'll have my vote.

Seeing at you bought swastikas to the table.The German people weren't wearing swastikas at the time they turned a blind eye to atrocities and racism.
Heil med pie..! X

[bule1]

Ok I'm going to get accusations of being racist but here goes..!can you imagine the right wingers voting for a black lady.?....no matter how vocal she is about immigration.?
Pedro you Racist !!!

Think you will find they said similar about the idea of a female Prime Minister in the 70's. Also yes I can imagine that whilst a few on the extreme right may have an issue with this, the vast majority would not.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Think you will find they said similar about the idea of a female Prime Minister in the 70's. Also yes I can imagine that whilst a few on the extreme right may have an issue with this, the vast majority would not.

I think you will find the miners didn't vote for her and me neither..!
I think I must be ***ist and racist...! Who knew..!🤣

[maddogslater]

Some of the worst racist stuff I've ever heard came in miners welfare clubs in the 70s

[SmiffyPie]

Didn't take long for the all-encompassing racist insinuation to appear did it.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Didn't take long for the all-encompassing racist insinuation to appear did it.

It's a fact of life I'm afraid smiffy...katanga my friend..

[Notsohumblepie]

Ok I'm going to get accusations of being racist but here goes..!can you imagine the right wingers voting for a black lady.?....no matter how vocal she is about immigration.?
Pedro you Racist !!!

As the membership already voted for her , I think your horse fell at the first fence . I wouldn't call you racist, it's become an overused expletive