O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[maddogslater]

I take your point and accept what you say.
However , it's relevant that without the Russian' s impacting the war , an allied victory would have taken longer to achieve, if at all.
My late father , bless him, spent 6 years plus in the Royal Navy, surviving his ships being sunk twice .
He was " honoured " to have served on The Russian Convoys , sailing into Archangel and Murmansk to help supply the war effort.
Much of the time, sailors were deployed de-icing their vessel to prevent capsizing.

Just listened to this podcast on the battle of the north cape, sinking of the scharnhorst, boxing day 43https://open.spotify.com/episode/49s...SVqLqOnLR7bPXg

[i961pie]

Tommy Cooper did it better: "They all laughed when I said I wanted to be a comedian. Well, they're not laughing now."

That was actually Bob Monkhouse who said that.

[SinceSept1959]

This one never fails to make me smile.

'We're leaving the EU because we want to make it significantly more difficult to live there. Anyone who doesn't like it can go and live there'

LOL.

Prefer being the key word though.

[Med Pie]

Prefer being the key word though.

That word isn't used?

[SinceSept1959]

That word isn't used?

Point of order ??
I used the word "prefer " in my retort to another post , which I added on 7/11/24.

Not in the same context is it?
As for a choice , I suppose that many people living here these days, would prefer to live in Europe ?
There are also many others, who would have greater empathy to the EU, rather than the UK ?

[keldsyke]

Former Labour adviser says UK 'doesn't need small farmers'
12 November 2024 | by FarmingUK Team | Finance, News, Politics


John McTernan, a former adviser to the Tony Blair government, has said that the UK 'doesn't need small farmers' during an interview.
Mr McTernan made the comments while on air defending the inheritance tax relief cuts announced in the recent autumn budget.
Speaking to presenter Patrick Christys on Monday evening (11 November), he said that "if farmers want to go on the street, we could do to them what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners."
Mr McTernan added "it’s an industry we can do without", saying "if people are so upset that they want to go on the streets and spread slurry, then we don’t need the small farmers.”
The comments follow controversial changes to agricultural property relief (APR), which means farms worth more than £1m will incur a 20% inheritance tax charge.
Farming groups have warned the inheritance tax changes would have a 'catastrophic' impact on family farms across the country.

New modelling released today (12 November) shows that the changes could leave small family farms paying tax bills that wipe out their annual profits.
Prime Minister Two Tier Keir today distanced himself from the Mr McTernan's comments, saying he 'totally disagrees' with them.
"I am absolutely committed to supporting our farmers. I said that before the election and I say it after the election," he during a Q&A at the COP29 conference.
"That is why in our budget I was very pleased to be investing £5billion of our budget over the next two years in farming.

[Elite_Pie]

Former Labour adviser says UK 'doesn't need small farmers'
12 November 2024 | by FarmingUK Team | Finance, News, Politics


John McTernan, a former adviser to the Tony Blair government, has said that the UK 'doesn't need small farmers' during an interview.
Mr McTernan made the comments while on air defending the inheritance tax relief cuts announced in the recent autumn budget.
Speaking to presenter Patrick Christys on Monday evening (11 November), he said that "if farmers want to go on the street, we could do to them what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners."
Mr McTernan added "it’s an industry we can do without", saying "if people are so upset that they want to go on the streets and spread slurry, then we don’t need the small farmers.”
The comments follow controversial changes to agricultural property relief (APR), which means farms worth more than £1m will incur a 20% inheritance tax charge.
Farming groups have warned the inheritance tax changes would have a 'catastrophic' impact on family farms across the country.

New modelling released today (12 November) shows that the changes could leave small family farms paying tax bills that wipe out their annual profits.
Prime Minister Two Tier Keir today distanced himself from the Mr McTernan's comments, saying he 'totally disagrees' with them.
"I am absolutely committed to supporting our farmers. I said that before the election and I say it after the election," he during a Q&A at the COP29 conference.
"That is why in our budget I was very pleased to be investing £5billion of our budget over the next two years in farming.

Can I ask why you posted this? Were you criticising a former advisor to Tony Blair, or were you praising Kier Starmer for distancing himself from the comments and saying he totally disagrees with them?

My guess is that you’ve scored an embarrassing own goal.

[keldsyke]

Can I ask why you posted this? Were you criticising a former advisor to Tony Blair, or were you praising Kier Starmer for distancing himself from the comments and saying he totally disagrees with them?

My guess is that you’ve scored an embarrassing own goal.

If you believe anything Kier Starmer tells you it’s an embarrassing own goal on your part from the half way line! It was posted to highlight how disjointed the whole Liebour movement is. I can’t think of anything positive the Labour government has done since being in power, taking on the farmers isn’t going to end well especially if Clarkson is leading it.

[SinceSept1959]

Can I ask why you posted this? Were you criticising a former advisor to Tony Blair, or were you praising Kier Starmer for distancing himself from the comments and saying he totally disagrees with them?

My guess is that you’ve scored an embarrassing own goal.

I think you know the poster's point (of view) very well.
Hardly an own goal, airing the thinking mentality of these advisers and " experts."

[Elite_Pie]

If you believe anything Kier Starmer tells you it’s an embarrassing own goal on your part from the half way line.

It wasn’t what Starmer told me, it was what YOU told me ffs! You obviously think this advisor is talking bollox, Starmer instantly agrees with you, and then you tell me not to believe anything Starmer says. He was AGREEING with you.

Not just an own goal, but you’ve managed to shoot yourself in both feet as well!