Never been one

[Deeranged]

Certainly not because of Finn

Did we win it despite him? Or did he make a contribution same as every other player?

[islaydarkblue]

Not really sure what Sam Fisher has anything to do with our current situation, but he?s been on loan with Stenhousemuir, so hardly setting the heather alight since he left us.

I was trying to show that managers select players as substitutes when they have no intention of using them as a substitute. Instead they are sitting on the subs bench to make up the numbers. I also think that it is crazy having two goalkeepers sitting on the subs bench.

[BCram]

Certainly not because of Finn

Was just trying to support Finn.

[jdfc]

Did we win it despite him? Or did he make a contribution same as every other player?

I?d say despite, that?s my opinion

[jdfc]

Was just trying to support Finn.

That?s been a big part of the problem at Dens, fans supporting players that have not been up to it, mainly because they are from the city

[Dodbroon]

I was trying to show that managers select players as substitutes when they have no intention of using them as a substitute. Instead they are sitting on the subs bench to make up the numbers. I also think that it is crazy having two goalkeepers sitting on the subs bench.

There is no requirement to list a full bench of subs. A team can list only 3 or 4 if they want. There is therefore no sense in listing players ?with no intention of using them as a substitute?. If the manager had no intention of fielding a player he would surely simply not list him at all.

[BCram]

That?s been a big part of the problem at Dens, fans supporting players that have not been up to it, mainly because they are from the city

I think a player, any player in our team, should be supported. I know it isn't fashionable but I think every player should be encouraged, all the time.
If you want to pick on someone the officials and the opposition seem to me to be far bigger and better targets than giving our players pelters.

Cammy Kerr, CW33, Finn, are just recent examples of players who I think we have let down with our failure to encourage them, all the time.

Of course, jdfc, you are entitled to your view, a view often expressed on football forums. I think that any player wearing our team colours should be supported, all the time.

[BP33]

[QUOTE=BCram;40705548]Hearts away he subbed Seb in 27 minutes and put on Fin Robertson. We won that match?[/QUOTE

It was in the second half, definitely not after 27 minutes.

[jdfc]

I think a player, any player in our team, should be supported. I know it isn't fashionable but I think every player should be encouraged, all the time.
If you want to pick on someone the officials and the opposition seem to me to be far bigger and better targets than giving our players pelters.

Cammy Kerr, CW33, Finn, are just recent examples of players who I think we have let down with our failure to encourage them, all the time.

Of course, jdfc, you are entitled to your view, a view often expressed on football forums. I think that any player wearing our team colours should be supported, all the time.

I support all that where the dark blue, doesn?t mean I have to agree with their inclusion, I don?t pick on players but you don?t have to be Alex Ferguson to see some players are out their depth

[BCram]

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Hearts away he subbed Seb in 27 minutes and put on Fin Robertson. We won that match?[/QUOTE

It was in the second half, definitely not after 27 minutes.

Quite right BP33. My mistake. It was 63rd minute. Seb was booked in 27th minute. My bad, and it does weaken the point I was trying to make.