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Thread: Was it not really Maynard's fault?

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    Was it not really Maynard's fault?

    Who's to blame, when situations degenerate?

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    typically, everyone involved to some extent

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    I don't regard Maynard as having "failed" outright, but rather, he just didn't achieve enough to match expectations. It's a fact that our league position did improve under his leadership, but just not by the number of places the owners clearly had in mind, and the performances were as dull as ditchwater. For failure, look at Steve Thompson and Colin Murphy who somehow took a side containing several future stars to the bottom of League One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    I don't regard Maynard as having "failed" outright, but rather, he just didn't achieve enough to match expectations. It's a fact that our league position did improve under his leadership, but just not by the number of places the owners clearly had in mind, and the performances were as dull as ditchwater. For failure, look at Steve Thompson and Colin Murphy who somehow took a side containing several future stars to the bottom of League One.
    As above. Everyone has to shoulder some of the blame but unfortunately for SM, more often than not, it's the manager that get's the lion's share and loses his job.

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    For me Maynard came in with an underdog mindset (which of course Wealdstone were) and was unable to get past this way of thinking and adapt to managing a side challenging at the top end of a table. He changed the side from being a consistent attacking threat (especially at home) to willing to play for a few 'big moments' in a match which was tedious in the extreme.

    There is no doubt he was hamstrung at times by injuries and issues with his assistant (who in fairness came with him so he should have had an idea about his temperament) but all managers can point to these sorts of excuses pretty much every year.

    A genuinely nice bloke but I don't think there are many Notts fans who are not glad to see the back of him as head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperleypie View Post
    For me Maynard came in with an underdog mindset (which of course Wealdstone were) and was unable to get past this way of thinking and adapt to managing a side challenging at the top end of a table. He changed the side from being a consistent attacking threat (especially at home) to willing to play for a few 'big moments' in a match which was tedious in the extreme.

    There is no doubt he was hamstrung at times by injuries and issues with his assistant (who in fairness came with him so he should have had an idea about his temperament) but all managers can point to these sorts of excuses pretty much every year.

    A genuinely nice bloke but I don't think there are many Notts fans who are not glad to see the back of him as head coach.
    I agree about his mindset. Not easy to go from a part-time club where survival is a success to a relatively big club aiming for promotion. I think Ardley had a similar mindset - "respect the point," "respects the opposition," etc.

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    In Maynard defence in terms of mindset we let around 90 goals in and fans were saying we need to be better, which we have been but it comes at a cost as I pointed out last year would happen.

    Now LW was more attacking he chucked 4-6 players forward at a time which makes for entertaining football but he could do that as he had much better weapons to put on the pitch & that is a fact.

    As others have said as head coach if results slip you carry the can that is how it is.

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    For most the season away we looked like a proper team, energetic, fairly robust and winning some tough games. As much as I respected him at home was a different story. That said when teams sit back more you need some match winners. In a typical line up who actually looked a match winner? Tarsoulla, Gordon, Whittaker, Grant, Austin, Palmer? These are players that had a lot of game time for us.

    I was astonished to look at Palmers scoring record, none this season and 15 over the whole of his career and that bearing in mind some was in the NL. That for a player for us who is on the edge of the oppositions box a hell of a lot and especially at home is quite concerning and he?s not on his own really.

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    I'd re-frame this question as "Was it Maynard's fault that he wasn't up to the job?".

    The answer to that largely depends on whether he put himself forward and over sold himself, or if he was head hunted and made an offer he couldn't refuse.

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    To answer the question - Maynard is partly to blame, but he is not on his own. I think the owners need to shoulder some of the burden in not bringing in anyone to work with him, instead promoting Alves who could have stayed as a first team coach. The new man (he's been so anonymous I can't even remember his name) started on 1st May.

    And the players need to hold their hands up too.

    It's a team game, but one where ultimately it's the manager / head coach whose head rolls.

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