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    Got to house all the incomers somewhere... Don't be so NIMBY 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    Yeah traffic won't be great.

    Local amenities too such as schools and doctors will have more strain on them.

    There is a meeting at the chapel next week to discuss further. There is a date in November set for getting objections in.

    They are trying to get it reclassified as grey belt of course, doesn't seem to meet the requirements from what I've seen. Seems grey belt is supposed to be land thats derelict but sits within the green belt. I wouldn't describe the area they are looking to build on as poor quality or previously developed. I know there are other rules such as sustainability they will probably use to push it through.

    As you say though I think they will get the go ahead anyway despite objections.
    That little run from Horseley Church is surely green belt so good luck. Hopefully if it does go ahead it?s more successfully developed than the disaster next to my property in Belper - pulled down as substandard, half rebuilt and now the developers have gone belly up, 7 years an eyesore

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    General Election here in 16 days' time. One of the major policy points is housing. Estimated 420K looking for a dwelling. Lots of plans from the various parties as to how to solve it.

    Most are for easing regulations making it easier to get permission to build.

    The VVD (Blue Tories) also wants building companies to build lots of new homes, most of which would be in the more expensive bracket. I can't, for the life of me, think why

    CDA (Christian Democrats, a slightly to the right centre party) want to get the very many empty buildings renovated to create housing without having to use agricultural land. They also favour a bit by bit extension. Adding a street or two to a village or a new estate to towns. For both avenues there is existing infrastructure in roads, shops, doctors, schools etc

    D66, another centre party but slightly left leaning wants all of the above plus they plan to get 10 new towns built. A tad over ambitious IMO.

    GL/PvdA, party of the working class, wants all of the above. When it comes to renovating office buildings etc that owners are expressly leaving empty to avoid costs and watching the value rise, they will resort to compulsory purchase for owners unwilling to make the change.

    PVV (Reform) want to lower rents, reduce the number of rules, build lots of houses. Another of their policies is to dismantle the Media Park in Hilversum where the NOS (Dutch BBC) and all the independent broadcasters have their offices and studios and turn it into homes. He doesn't like the media as they keep telling the truth about the weaknesses of his policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    General Election here in 16 days' time. One of the major policy points is housing. Estimated 420K looking for a dwelling. Lots of plans from the various parties as to how to solve it.

    Most are for easing regulations making it easier to get permission to build.

    The VVD (Blue Tories) also wants building companies to build lots of new homes, most of which would be in the more expensive bracket. I can't, for the life of me, think why

    CDA (Christian Democrats, a slightly to the right centre party) want to get the very many empty buildings renovated to create housing without having to use agricultural land. They also favour a bit by bit extension. Adding a street or two to a village or a new estate to towns. For both avenues there is existing infrastructure in roads, shops, doctors, schools etc

    D66, another centre party but slightly left leaning wants all of the above plus they plan to get 10 new towns built. A tad over ambitious IMO.

    GL/PvdA, party of the working class, wants all of the above. When it comes to renovating office buildings etc that owners are expressly leaving empty to avoid costs and watching the value rise, they will resort to compulsory purchase for owners unwilling to make the change.

    PVV (Reform) want to lower rents, reduce the number of rules, build lots of houses. Another of their policies is to dismantle the Media Park in Hilversum where the NOS (Dutch BBC) and all the independent broadcasters have their offices and studios and turn it into homes. He doesn't like the media as they keep telling the truth about the weaknesses of his policies.
    Repurposing/renovating empty/poorly used buildings is cracking idea, I Beth Sith can think of a few in Kilburn. It?s been my ?hobby? for decades but it won?t appeal to the big guns who can make a difference to new housing numbers as they prefer the ?cookie cutter? approach (albeit new estates these days look better than 60s/70s ones)

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    There isn't lots in Kilburn. The obvious one is the methodist chapel but it's listed i believe and there was plans to turn it into 13 flats.

    Not sure what happened with those plans as there was no planned parking, they were going to aim them at cyclists (lol)

    The tar pits has been talked about for years although I think that's green belt too. At one point they were talking of thousands of homes to rival oakwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    There isn't lots in Kilburn. The obvious one is the methodist chapel but it's listed i believe and there was plans to turn it into 13 flats.

    Not sure what happened with those plans as there was no planned parking, they were going to aim them at cyclists (lol)

    The tar pits has been talked about for years although I think that's green belt too. At one point they were talking of thousands of homes to rival oakwood.
    Yes the chapel is the obvious one, last time I moseyed through there were a couple of shops/spaces above shops that looked like candidates, maybe they are used now. The old pub (?) on chapel street was being developed, did that become housing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Yes the chapel is the obvious one, last time I moseyed through there were a couple of shops/spaces above shops that looked like candidates, maybe they are used now. The old pub (?) on chapel street was being developed, did that become housing
    It's a learning centre I believe for young people who have had challenges.

    The old barbers is still empty but only a small space really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Repurposing/renovating empty/poorly used buildings is cracking idea, I Beth Sith can think of a few in Kilburn. It?s been my ?hobby? for decades but it won?t appeal to the big guns who can make a difference to new housing numbers as they prefer the ?cookie cutter? approach (albeit new estates these days look better than 60s/70s ones)
    Wow, we agree! Though whether the ‘new estates’ will still look acceptable in fifty to sixty years is debatable (none of us will know).
    All for responsible repurposing of old factories and redundant office blocks/shops etc into housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Wow, we agree! Though whether the ?new estates? will still look acceptable in fifty to sixty years is debatable (none of us will know).
    All for responsible repurposing of old factories and redundant office blocks/shops etc into housing.
    you'd be surprised rA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    you'd be surprised rA
    I'm living in a house that's just celebrated it's 350th birthday - so why not. Might be time for new wallpaper soon

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