Domination last two games

[Yeats 62]

Yep, we got relegated end of story. Hard to see what's right about that tbh. It's like coming home from the bookies penniless and explaining to the missus that there's no housekeeping money left but in a way it's ok because if luck had been with you things would be fine 🤔

Yeah. And if your horse didn't fall at the first fence for the last three weeks on the trot (pun intended) and get boxed in by a jockey who knew what he was doing the week before (and the week before that ) then that horse would hae been right up there in the first three. So if you punted on that horse "each way" instead of on the nose (as you did) you also would hae made the correct decision knowing you horse was a tap three contender, then took all the winnings back hame to look after the hoose.

Eh.... good ane

[shedka]

Hard to agree with that. You talk about rotten luck in January - never mind rotten luck, I think we were just rotten. We had taken 1 point from the five games previous to the St Johnstone game at Tannadice - a game in which we were depressingly bad. I had been living in England for 16 years, recently moved back to the area and this was the first game I had attended for several years. I knew things were bad at the club but I was alarmed at just how poor we were. We were the worst team in the league, which was backed up by the fact that we were bottom of the league for almost the entire season. It was a minor miracle that we managed to get to the final game with our fate not yet totally sealed.

To the vast majority, it was blindingly obvious from a very early stage in the season (think 9-0 defeat at home) that we were heading down that season. It baffles me that anyone could have painted a different picture, and indeed still try to back that up even today.

We got to tenth place in January from being rooted without a win in October, had some terrible decisions against us in back to back games, it was not obvious in January we were going down though, releghitti was then the main reason after January

Infact had we addressed the goal keeper situation then, we would have stayed up, even under Fox as we were not the worst team in the league from the outfield stand point and like said, he got us to 10th after a decent run from October to January after we had been rooted with no wins

Like 2015/16, how can I be wrong in thinking we'd have had as much chance staying up NOT changing manager both times (ie sticking with Sackie and Fox to end of season), it cannot be proven either way, I wouldn't have changed manager either time (Ross deserved to be sacked though), for me we'd have got more points under Jackie than we did under Mixu and Fox wouldn't have done any worse then we did, not that I'd have wanted Fix long term

The positive from it is we got the right man in this time to bring stability, JG has been proven to be the correct choice and we are in a much better place even looking ahead to next season which is why it's sad to see him have so many naysayers, not because he's beyond criticism but criticism is different to wanting him out

[Arabdownsouth]

If my granny had baws

[shedka]

If my granny had baws

You'd be able to debate, but as she likely didn't, then here we are

Enjoy your weekend

[Arabdownsouth]

You'd be able to debate, but as she likely didn't, then here we are

Enjoy your weekend

Its not as if you enjoy debate though. You're right and everyone else is wrong and thats your view. A load of ifs and buts about the relegation season does not make you right, we got relegated and thats in the history books unfortunately rather than your stat based woulda coulda shoulda. Not sure my grannys lack of gonads has much to do with reasonable debate either but hey.

What I will add though is this. You take two good performances (one of which we didn't even win) as proof that the system works, but totally refute those who use the rest of the season as proof that it doesn't. How's that work then?

[shedka]

Its not as if you enjoy debate though. You're right and everyone else is wrong and thats your view. A load of ifs and buts about the relegation season does not make you right, we got relegated and thats in the history books unfortunately rather than your stat based woulda coulda shoulda. Not sure my grannys lack of gonads has much to do with reasonable debate either but hey.

What I will add though is this. You take two good performances (one of which we didn't even win) as proof that the system works, but totally refute those who use the rest of the season as proof that it doesn't. How's that work then?

Not really, you just aren't reading what I'm saying properly so not grasping it

I said it now show's the system CAN work, that can't be argued after these two games, 39 shots for and barely any chances given up

I also said it had to be the right personnel and even a couple changes could impact the system a lot, so the 343 can work but it requires the right players

So Farrugia instead of lazy Dolcek, only signed in January and now upto speed

The energy of Luca and Ferry on each side is crucial as is the middle two and Agyei just signed in January beside Sevelj is that duo, Camara isn't disciplined enough for it to work as well with him as one is the two imo

So it's not going to work all the time but now we know that system can work and when it does it's very effective

Why it didn't work so well before is personnel, we've made signing that means it work and had less injuries so getting consistent selection for once, he went 352 much of the time also

Pappoe injury might have played a part in our season too, Agyei though is a find

[Arabdownsouth]

Working a treat 👍

[Arabdownsouth]

shedka said:
24-03-2026 09:59 PM
It's also proving many wrong that it is the 3 at the back is the issue, more specifically 3-4-3

Your words not mine 👍

[shedka]

Working a treat 👍

Well it is, United have been the better team

Goalie error cost us, we deserve to be ahead really but have got back into it

You can't help yourself, the system can work, it's been proven, seen it with my own eyes in person both games

Today doesn't change it because we are up against a better side at the most difficult away venue in the country this season against the inform side in the country so wouldn't matter the formation, it's a tough task

Not like you to be quick off the mark and knee jerk though

[shedka]

shedka said:
24-03-2026 09:59 PM
It's also proving many wrong that it is the 3 at the back is the issue, more specifically 3-4-3

Your words not mine 👍

It isn't a 3 at the back issue, we know that now and that's what I've been saying and only it to be the case now

It's a personnel thing and this is the third game in a row we've been the better side, only half time but we deserve to be ahead, that's Olson both uglies

Unfortunately goalkeeper errors this season have been a particularly and again today

Derek Ferguson a big hvn, saying we've been dominant

But ads thinks otherwise 😂