Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
You don't have to have time for it and you're quite entitled to claim anything you wish, as long as you understand that you have no direct proof of your claims, other than accepting mainstream explanations and so called reality photo's and video.

I could stand about saying I have no time for people who believe we spin on a globe at over 1000 mph, going around a central sun that is almost supposedly 800,000 miles in diameter at 66,000 mph but I'm in acceptance that we are brought up to believe all this stuff, so anyone that goes against it is naturally deemed a waste of time to anyone who has no reason to question it.

As for being anti scientific...I'd say it's being scientific but is being anti mainstream, like I said earlier. Going against the accepted grain.

So to react to your comment on people being seriously stupid for believing in alternate theories to the indoctrinated one, I'd say it's far from stupid. Far from it.

Some people get the idea of a flat Earth and just think of pancake flat, they don't take time to look at any of it because it doesn't fit their interest or upbringing.
It's not too different to an upbringing of religious belief's. One person will have their belief and another will have theirs. Some belief's are masses strong and others are sectioned, with alternate one's, including non-belief are spread out in smaller sections.

I once believed it all. I was told from being a kid about the 8 minutes it takes for the suns light to hit us from it's 93,000,000 mile distance in so called space and a 240,000 mile so called moon.

Most people accept it all as I did and most people will expire with that mindset.
I say each to their own but when a person makes a claim against another, unless they have absolute proof, then it's really all down to sorting the wheat from the chaff and being interested enough to see both sides of an argument from a person's own points and not guided by points gleaned from books or mainstream say so as some kind of truth and whole truth and nothing but a truth.

Anyway, read this or bypass it. That's my two penneth and we'll leave it at that.
Of course I'm going to read it as you've taken the time to respond to my comment. And you're right we probably should leave it at that because we will never agree on this. Let me just say that I respect your views because you are entitled to them, but I will fight them because I don't want people who know nothing about science to present unqualified views on it, just as I don't like dogmatic religious beliefs to be part of government. To say that we're simply talking about "going against the accepted grain" and that people don't have "time to look at it as it doesn't fit their interest" are extreme claims in my opinion. You talk about evidence. If you have actually taken the the time, like you claim other people don't, and examined the evidence, you'd know that there is much more evidence in support of the moon landings and the Earth being round than the other way around.

People work with science in so many shapes and forms every day all over the world, trying to make us wiser. To say that people are denying conspiracies because it's not in their interest is wrong - science, unlike religion, will happily admit its wrong because that's its very nature. For it to be proven wrong or right, evidence needs to be presented. "One person have that belief, another has a different one" - that rule simply does not apply to science. So gravity is a matter of opinion? Nope, it's just a fact.

But yeah, let's leave it at that