pat
you seemed to think you have to stick up for jammy when iasked did he break into my house and steal my key board

well too things

i dont think jammy is some kind of cat burglar breaking into mansions to steal key boards

im sure jammy realised it was a joke (if not jammy i assure you it was )

secondly im sure jammy would have commented if he did think i was having a dig
he is a big boy

and too do it a second time on teh adn bit is laughable

i have a theory for you

you have said you cant make toon games due to having to work 7 days a week to suport the wife and grand kids

try this it might help you a little but if not just ignore it im only offering some help

you might spend an hour or two on these kind of websites a day

lets say an hour

most of that seems to be trying to pull me up ,offer the friendship thing etc etc

why dont you stop that

so an hour a day
7 days a week
for four weeks

28 hours saved roughly

now say you live down the south coast and have to travel up to the toon

even at the most sedate pace that would be maybe 5-6 hours
each way that is even to my math 10-12 hours

take that the game will be two hours 90 minutes half time and a bit of added extra time ( i just dont know where they get these added minutes some times ,do you?)
so thats 13 and a half hours
still leaves a lot of time to have a kip at a relatives house maybe or hotels dont cost a lot booked in advance or if you want ill pay for the hotel and we can have a drink

and then that still leaves you enough time to meet the lads from here and the lasses june wil be in the labour club im sure just before kick off

and then that will benefit the board in many ways
you will see a game for real and can comment
we wont be arguing
you will see all the posters you havent seen
and you can vent your spleen at ash in real time

now if you dont want my help i fully understand
i wouldnt want to put upon someone i have never met

but at least consider it