The truth about Lai's

[Baggiemadguern]

Nobody asks you to follow Albion in any way, it is you who distort the truth and make claims of fans wanting to the c??? Head on a spike and him selling up because of that and then your b ollox Supermarket analogy referring to me as a failed accountant this and that.

And it is not the first time you have done it.

Basically, you want every one to be like you and be lovey dovey with local rival fans and you don't like it when posters aren't abiding by your way of posting.

You have digs about nobody making me pay over inflated prices over the years at the Albion, indeed nobody makes me, but I do it because I support the Albion.

If you don't understand that and why I love the ground and badge that's your issue.

If I want to call the c??? A c??? I will for numerous reasons one of which is the way he treated the Astle family.

You continue praising him, but leave me out of it.

Have your opinion without digs at me.

Baggieblood,

It was not me that picked up on something and decided to go with it.

Look below and see (Quote 1) my first post on the thread "All Things That Jump Out"


You then post on this thread (Quote 2).

I responded to Soulman (Quote 3)

You respond (Quote 4)

I respond (Quote 5)

You respond (Quote 6)

I think this shows how we got to where we are!

No issues here, but if you pull a post apart then expect poster to respond.

In respect of Jeremy Peace, my point is, we were in a better place with him than without, for all his faults.

I did post to you a year ago re your anger at a football fan from another club who was equally passionate about his club as you are yours. The only time before that was snide comments you made about me, my avatar and all because our views differed.

I try to show humility to all.

Have a good day.


Quote 1

Just a few points.

When Lai bought the club people were doing somersaults, there were suggestions we would be free from Jeremy the bean counter and the Club would move forward with the wealth of finance that was sure to follow, there were predictions of great times ahead. There was laughter at the Wolves and their new owner and the Villa’s new owners also. Some on the other hand, were concerned and predicted that sale could put the Club into a unstable position and that the end result could be disastrous. And so it comes to pass.

A return trip to the Hawthorns with an overnight stay (no choice) for a game, would cost me somewhere in the region of £500 to £600, it sort of puts me to be totally honest.

My football attendance on a Saturday afternoon is watching my grandsons(8 and below) playing tournament with their club, it great and really enjoyable.

We are were we are, where Mickd predicted we would be upon Dig Davies appointment and where a few of us predicted we would be years ago, when many wanted Jeremy’s head on a spike. Let’s just hope Mr Lai and Big Dave can pull a rabbit out of the hat because at the moment we are in free fall.

Quote 2

You can't Blame peace, he was wonderful owner and left an unparalleled legacy.

Some long lost fans are saving their £600 up to one day come and pay homage to the bald one and everything he built.

Quote 3

Soulman, if you owned a corner shop with a flat above it in which you reside, worth, say a £100,000. You put the flat and shop on the market, intending to leave the area and retire, A gentleman from afar does his due diligence and offers you £300,000. Your customers say please don’t sell to him because he plans to turn the corner shop into a shoe shop and we will have to go a long way to get our shopping.

What you do? Well I know what anyone would do. I know the UK,s top accountant would suggest you take the £100,000 because they know the value of those customers thoughts and how they loved you for charging them inflated prices for years to keep your little shop in the black. They would lose £200,000 because they believe the customers have some kind of ownership of something they utilised but actually never did own and have no right to.

How the people who used the shop for years spent there money is for them. They utilised a service as football fans do for their entertainment (or not). They follow something that they do not own, control and have little, if any say in what goes on within that club.

One man though, one who shopped cautiously over years, saving £600.00 or more a week, well he now owns a supermarket so never goes hungry, unlike the silly little accountant who holds a grudge tighter than a rusted nut, the one who despises the shop keeper for doing sound business, the one who now walks to the supermarket to buy his groceries then slinks home to moan about all that befalls his ruined accountancy career.

The shop keeper, now retired, is enjoying his well earned retirement.

Quote 4

Soulman, peace was wonderful, he always invested in youth and the stadium.

Look at the the Halford lane and the east stand corners, what exceptional work.

He came in as the west Bromwich born wba fan who forced out Paul Thompson who actually built the East stand.

He certainly backed his managers and was greatly saddened when robbo have agreed fees for ugo and hasselbaink decided he didn't need them after all and would rather go down.

He didn't force longstanding wba shareholders to sell their cherished shares to him and his sister through one scheme or another.

He totally deserved a £30m dividend and £180m fee on top of the £1m annual salary.

He also did not sell to a naive idiot after telling us he would sell to somebody who would have our best interests at heart and would take us forward, but ensured he benefited the most and his statement of "mid championship team" became true.

The thing is soulman you pay your money and back the team you love.

You don't make excuse after excuse for not going and you just don't come on here as it breaks up your day and gives you something to do to away the hours.

In essence your season ticket is your supermarket loyalty card and you were born and bred a baggie and that is what you will always be despite who owns the supermarket.

We should put a statue of the c??? In the east stand toilets so his fans can make the one in a lifetime pilgrimage to his shrine.

Until then pilgrims will make up boll ux that fans wanted the c??? Head on a spike while he was here and basically forced him to sell, when the truth is he wanted to sell for years and employed the divisive and destructive pulis to ensure the top flight status until he sold up to the highest bidder.

Quote 5

Firstly, my Apologies Soulman.

Baggieblood, I come on here to discuss West Bromwich Albion with like minded people. We might not always agree, I respect that. I use this site as and when I wish to. I do not use it as often as i once did. That is mainly because the excellent humorous posters of a few years back have stopped posting or sadly left this world.

I do not post much during the day because I work.
I do not go to Albion games because geographically it is difficult and exceptionally pricey. I understand that seems to be an issue with some on here, however it is my prerogative and to that end I will follow any football club I choose and comment on them in any way I choose, much like people who comment on politics but never go to the House of Commons.

I have to admit that I perhaps do not love West Brom in the same way as you. I love my family members because they are human and can reciprocate that love. I love animals, again they can show you that in return. Loving a football club, the stand and footballers that wear the shirt they have no affiliation too is a little too far for me. I could follow them (if I chose too) I could support them, enjoy the entertainment, but love? I have more important things in life than West Brom. However, that said, I respect that you do love it and pay to go and see them and be entertained! (I think)

We both do not like where West Brom are or where they seem to be heading. I think we can at least agree on that. I would rather JP was still the owner than Mr Lai, you on the other would rather have neither. I just wonder how many owners we are going to have to have to get the perfect one?

How we go about supporting/following West Brom is an individuals choice and I will continue to follow them as I have done since I was a small boy. I was not born there, how or why I chose to follow them is another story. What I do know is generally posters on this site have been more than welcome to accept oversea followers of West Brom with open arms. To that end I shall continue to post as little and often as I desire

Quote 6

Nobody asks you to follow Albion in any way, it is you who distort the truth and make claims of fans wanting to the c??? Head on a spike and him selling up because of that and then your b ollox Supermarket analogy referring to me as a failed accountant this and that.

And it is not the first time you have done it.

Basically, you want every one to be like you and be lovey dovey with local rival fans and you don't like it when posters aren't abiding by your way of posting.

You have digs about nobody making me pay over inflated prices over the years at the Albion, indeed nobody makes me, but I do it because I support the Albion.

If you don't understand that and why I love the ground and badge that's your issue.

If I want to call the c??? A c??? I will for numerous reasons one of which is the way he treated the Astle family.

You continue praising him, but leave me out of it.

Have your opinion without digs at me.