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The Pro-Ashley bands are the type of people who were happy to doff their cap to the mill owner hours after their kid lost an arm in a machines working in the mill.

Absolutely nothing like it.

I'm not fan of the man how he has demoralised and humiliate the Newcastle fans is the worst indictment and shouldn't be allowed.

The man is human himself and he's been crucified much much worse than he could ever do to a football fan.
The man owns the club and the club is still in the premier league even after a few relegations, that happened, not due to under investment, but by failure of manager and team/squad to gel and put their heart and soul into the club.

Few hated the man when we won the championship. Many were contemplating forgiving him for the supposed monstrous things he's done, as was made out.
As for being demoralised. I don't feel it and I've been a fan for close to 50 years. But then again I concentrate on what happens from the players and managers point, not from whether the owner will be nice or truthful or whether, supposedly burning my eyes out with his so called advertising...etc...etc...etc.
It's became a frenzy but it's a frenzy borne from storytelling narratives to follow...and people simply follow it if it's bad and disbelieve it and scorn it if it appears to be good.

When he says there is no money or spouts that nonsense that 'every penny is available' anyone with half a brain knows that's horse Sh!te!

What is said and what is done is life, is not just an Ashley thing.
The reality is very simple. We buy players and we sell them.
The players we buy are good and bad like all clubs.
The issue is, with some...the players are not net spends so are cast off as mediocre, even though some have turned out to be pretty good and much better than was first thought.

I call that progression that can be built upon and yet no need to deal in mass amounts of notes if you can offset by player sales.
That's real investment. Ploughing back your profit on your assets into better assets.
I think we do that very well under the circumstances.

It's clear to see that the revenue streams of a club as big as ours return less money for running the club, developing the facilities and investing in players than much smaller clubs in terms of fan base like Brighton or Bournmouth or Wolves etc etc is outrageous!

Brighton and Bournemouth finished below us.
What do they get for their investments?
What did we get for our investments of Mitrovic, Wijnaldum and co?
Investment and ambition. What exactly do they mean in football anymore?

Liverpool, Man City and co cannot be used as any yardstick because it's not really investment in the real sense of the word and nor is it ambition in the real sense of the word.
It's over expectation dependent on outlay that is clearly unsustainable in a fair set up.
That's the reality.

Had we had a wealth owner or consortium who were aggressive in seeking better and better sponsorship deals which will improve the over finances of the club which leads to benefits in the playing staff, facilities and enjoyment of the fans.

Like Q.P.R eh?
I am actually glad we have Ashley. I seriously seriously mean it.
I don't hold the man in contempt like some do and in a backhanded type of way, I thank him a lot more than I get frustrated by his actions on certain issues.
I see a club ran fairly well. Could be better and could be a damn sight worse by a long way.
I have a good enough memory of the times when Ellis Short was commended by Newcastle fans for being a proper owner and Ashley the Devil.
Why?
Well Ellis gave the fans what he thought they craved...and what he craved himself, which was a stab at some semblance of success by an apparent ambitious attempt to invest for it.
The rest is history with that mindset.

Us?
Where are we?

Sometimes you have to be ultra careful what you wish for.
I am careful what I wish for.

This is hubris people, you gotta speculate to accumulate!

Thanks all

Yep, as long as your speculation is not all your eggs into one basket.