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Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
RA it seems that at the moment 50% of those that go into critical care are surviving and they are mostly over 70, there is anecdotal evidence that quite a few fit people in their 70's and over are just having mild symptoms and why would you not expect Charles who after all has had very good medical on hand all his life and is in good health not to be OK?

The Police question is interesting, in that examples have been given where they have acted beyond the legislation and government advice - so for instance a force attempted to stop a corner shop selling easter eggs on the basis they werent essential - no such advice or instruction has been given by the government. Nor has the government said people cannot drive to somehwere for their exercise and neither does the legislation prohibit this, Derbyshire Police seem to be very heavy handed. Some Police forces have issued a lot of summons, 100's in one case, Bedfordshire Police have issued none, West Yorkshire are having road blocks and issuing tickets, The Met aren't.

So we have inconsistency of approach and some forces who seem to enjoy their ability to be jobsworths - after all its easier to do this than hard police work isn't it? We police by consent in this country and having seen how some other police forces around the world police I'm glad we do, so yes it is a concern, there needs to be proportionality applied and the Police need to work with the public and tackle flagrant abuses - parties large gatherings rather than people who are observing social distancing but not in a manner interpreted by an specific police force.

We don't actually need to stay indoors, we need to avoid contact with others who are not of the same household, its not the same thing!
I wouldn’t expect him not to be okay...it was just a simple point that I found it reassuring that a 71 year old appeared to have recovered so quickly. The whole pensioner/over 70 thing appears a bit random to me anyway. I know people aged between 60-75 who appear to have been on their last legs for years while others, hopefully including myself, are fitter than some in their 40’s.

Yes, I agree that the police need to work with the public but it is a difficult task they’ve been given. Going for a drive to a normally relatively deserted location and then going for a walk seems utterly harmless, indeed I can see the High Peak Trail in the distance from my garden and my ‘walking buddy’ has suggested that we meet up there and go for a walk. Seems harmless enough doesn’t it? But if we can do it, so can anyone else at which point it defeats the whole object.

Doubtless there have been some ‘jobsworths’ who, now there are no speeding cars to deal with, will be heavy handed but, imo, we need the police to enforce the rules about staying in/social distancing and the reaction to the police stopping the middle aged and middle class in a way they’re totally unfamiliar with has been a little hysterical.

The Peak District...where most of the criticism stems from...is a difficult one. It acts as the ‘rural lungs’ for so many urban areas...Derby, Manchester, Stoke, Sheffield and Nottingham...in particular. Last weekend was bitterly cold so there would have been fewer visitors anyway but with Easter and the, hopefully, warmer weather approaching there could be a real problem and the message needs to get through now.