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[ramAnag]

Isn't it refreshing to be told by an enlightened Liberal that we should not have open minds but must form fixed opinions rather than see both sides of an argument. I'm thinking this is precisely the situation that Andy was searching for a word for yesterday.

The world is full or grey rA, not everything is black and white.

To answer you final point, no I wouldn't want that change made here, but I'm struggling on the relevance of that to the entirely different position in the USA. You are, culturally and socio economically comparing chalk to cheese.

I’m not ‘telling anyone’ anything GP...I was asked for my opinion.
I have no difficulty with and totally respect the argument put forward by Ram, as a gun club member, and MA too.

But yes, we do surely have to reach a decision and, as I’ve said, imo there can be no justification for members of the public owning automatic and semi automatic weapons. Personally I’d go further but I recognise I may not be right about that.

The world may well not be ‘black and white’ and instead be ‘full of grey’, GP but somethings just transcend that ‘greyness’...pea-dophilia, driving at excessive speed through built up areas, drinking and driving, rape, domestic abuse, child abuse. We’d all, I presume agree that such actions are universally wrong (although you’d probably throw in a red herring about emergency service drivers for #2)...and to that I’d add parading through US cities carrying weapons that would have looked more at home on the battlefield.

I don’t understand your suggestion that comparing the UK and the US is like ‘culturally and sociology economically comparing chalk and cheese’...it isn’t imo, but the fact that ultimately you don’t want to replicate the US situation over here speaks volumes. It’s also interesting that this is the first time you’ve made clear your family’s vested interest in guns but please don’t try and compare your, I again presume, responsible family members with some of those we saw brandishing automatic weapons in the States.

Adi...we’ve got used to not going out, being unable to leave the country, not being allowed to go to gigs and the theatre and having to wear masks in recent months. Why? Because it’s in the interests of the common good. You say, with complete common sense imo, that personally gun ownership should be restricted to the police, the military and farmers but gun owners wouldn’t like it. If that upsets those who want to have a gun in the house...tough...I like driving quickly and would love to drive on Mways at 120mph, but I don’t because I recognise we need rules for the common good.