Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
Tha belongs weer tha belongs at end ot day. Sunderland are rotting in league 1 cos they've been run by idiots who've let debts get crazily out of control. The size of that club is enormous and they've always had a top flight 'pull' but are where they are.

Leeds did 3 seasons in league 1, Sheffield United did 6 consecutive seasons in league 1. Forest were down there for a couple o years, so too Wednesday.

Barnsley has the potential to pull 20000 home fans regularly if successful but it's a big if. Realistically we are a 6000 hardcore and always have been barring the 1970s doldrums.

Those 6k diehards will be all that's left next season
Yes - but you are talking about the influence of history there regarding Sunderland.

If Sunderland had the same history as Barnsley they would be getting the same attendances as Barnsley.

You have mentioned the word ‘doldrums’.
In my time watching Barnsley the club has rarely been out of the doldrums.

I can say Alan Clarke years, Norman Hunter years, the Glavin era, the John Dennis era were good.
All the rest have been doldrums years.
Including most of Patrick’s 15 year reign.

And then PMG took over and those yo yo years were going to end.
But didn’t.
The club (and Town) are crying out for a sustained period of success.